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re: It's easy to pick on powerless immigrants and refugees, but where's the meat?

Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13499 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
A "powerless immigrant and refugee" from Jordan killed a US Senator and major party presidential candidate, they are only powerless in the libtard brain of yours. I hope one day you or yours don't meet a powerless Somalian on the wrong side of the hood!
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ACA is the one that is disappointing. Bill Casssidy ran on the "I have a plan" to replace ACA and I don't see jack.

The House of Representatives will have a say in the new law. The Senate will have a say in the new law. Trump will have a say in the law. And unfortunately the Supreme Court will get a say on the new law.

Bill is only 1 in 100 in the senate. He WILL have a large influence in crafting the law, and ONE vote on the new law!

Your ignorance of the functions of your government are only slightly more distressing than your impatience! Please go now to your nearest public library and check out a high school textbook on government and read it!

Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36035 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:38 pm to
Well, how about we start by getting his cabinet confirmed first?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:39 pm to
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ACA is the one that is disappointing. Bill Casssidy ran on the "I have a plan" to replace ACA and I don't see jack.




Trusting people like Cassidy, Trump, Price, Ryan and other politicians that they have the answer has always been a mistake. They said what polls well and what people wanted to hear. They don't and never did have solutions lined up that matched their rhetoric with realistic results. At least not when it comes to what they say will be achieved with what their plans/ideas actually do. And the few places where they have gave realistic fixes(Trump on re-importation and letting Medicare negotiate drugs prices) Trump has silently abandoned due to industry pressures.

54 times Republicans tried to pass repeal bills or so called "fixes" to Obamacare when Obama was president. Right up until the end. Now that they don't have the shield of the presidents veto it is crickets on that front. That should of signaled to any reasonable person that they were playing games and shouldn't be trusted.

Any Republican that decries the evils of Obamacare's growth of high deductible plans and promises to "fix it" should immediately lose their credibility on the topic until further notice. Not only do all of their plans not fix this, many, like Price's plan, doubles down on high-deductible plans as a major feature. Based on the assumption, that the evidence so far does not bear out, that forcing people to spend more out-of-pocket will make them better healthcare consumers and bring down prices. When in reality it does reduce spending on the consumer end, but only because people forgo treatment, not because they shop around and it has driven prices down. That is just one example where the rhetoric(Obamacares evil high-deductible plans are killing families and we will fix it) does not match reality(high deductible plans are a feature, not a bug. I will expand them to government programs and let insurers feature them even more prominently).
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90270 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:41 pm to
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Your ignorance of the functions of your government are only slightly more distressing than your impatience! Please go now to your nearest public library and check out a high school textbook on government and read it!


LOL, You think I think BC is going to replace ACA.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Well, how about we start by getting his cabinet confirmed first?




Republicans hold the house and senate and due to Republican frickery back in 09 and the Democratic response, no longer does a veto hold any weight. At best Dems can slow, but Trump has failed to even name people to a vast majority of the positions he needs to fill. And because he has failed to do his own due diligence with squaring wth government ethics officers and clearing up conflicts of interest, he opens himself much more easily to being slowed down.

That excuse does not really work.
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This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
6092 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:59 pm to
4 weeks into his Presidency and you're asking these questions? Try again
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90270 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 1:03 pm to
If you look at BC's plan part of it is to keep ACA which I find disappointing. Of course there are other plans. I would have hoping by now there would be a unified voice, or last least a better consensus.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13499 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 1:24 pm to
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LOL, You think I think BC is going to replace ACA.

No, I think that you think that what BC thinks about the ACA will have no impact on the senate's thinking on how to replace the unthinkable ACA passed by the thoughtless for the unthinking. But what I was saying is that in my thinking BC's thinking will have a major impact on the senate's thinking on how replace the thoughtless Obamacare that unthinkingly passed to the detriment of the unthinking and thinking alike despite your thinking unthinkable thoughts!
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90270 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 1:35 pm to
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No, I think that you think that what BC thinks about the ACA will have no impact on the senate's thinking on how to replace the unthinkable ACA passed by the thoughtless for the unthinking. But what I was saying is that in my thinking BC's thinking will have a major impact on the senate's thinking on how replace the


No, but he kept he mouth shut about it at Washington Mardi Gras. SC was more verbal though. They should have a better consensus at this point.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 2:08 pm to
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TBoy


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but where's the meat?


Is this like that old Wendy's commercial with the old lady asking "where's the beef"?

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105428 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 2:10 pm to
You are used to having a new healthcare law forced upon you, I get this. Why don't we let them craft a bill that we all can understand this time, and one that doesn't triple th cost for those who pay for it.

Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36035 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Trump's been too busy tweeting, reading what all the press is writing about him and responding, traveling to Florida every weekend record amounts of tax payer money, still trying to find an NSA appointment, signing executive orders for show, and making sure his new position as president is benefiting his companies. Is there any time for governing???
All this and he's still accomplished more in a month than your boy did in 8 years. Sad, isn't it?
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5063 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:51 pm to
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Trump's been too busy tweeting, reading what all the press is writing about him and responding, traveling to Florida every weekend record amounts of tax payer money,



Let us know when the cost of Trump going home on weekends reaches the amount spent on the obama African vacation.
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