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re: It’s amazing to me how successfully the Left has normalized the unthinkable
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:11 pm to CleverUserName
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:11 pm to CleverUserName
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Watch that and tell me what the Hub bub about Mar a Lago is.
Acts done AFTER he was in office.
Your links don't say what you claimed, but, regardless, those allegations were while she was in office. Sometimes immunity can exist for illegal/improper acts while in office (not saying Hillary directly, just trying to clear up your previous comment, since you used bad examples).
The MAL crimes are not while DJT was in office, and, specifically, the obstruction-related charges. You tell me what immunity would apply to THOSE allegations.
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:12 pm to moneyg
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It’s illegal. You just excuse it.
Yes, by saying it was illegal and should have been prosecuted, I'm "excusing" it
I suppose LARPing for revolution is a more rational and tactile resopnse
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:13 pm to CleverUserName
quote:I am entirely serious. You "quoted" three words, and I don't know what you are specifically referencing.
You cannot be serious.
You can be an arse, or you can give me a bit more info so that I can see what you mean and engage in reasoned discussion.
Your call.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:15 pm to moneyg
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This is what I’m talking about. Many aren’t willing to acknowledge what is happening. It’s easier to blame Trump and pretend that electing someone else solves this problem.
And this is what I am talking about. You are unable to blame Trump for anything.
They outmaneuvered him from day 1. It had nothing to do with him being "a threat". They saw someone they could do it to, they tried, it worked, so they increasingly took it farther and farther.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You don't see that as a rational argument?quote:Yes, by saying it was illegal and should have been prosecuted, I'm "excusing" it
It’s illegal. You just excuse it.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Acts done AFTER he was in office.
Ok. My turn to ask for a link.
Where is the law that mishandling of classified and top secret information is legal while in office… but prosecutable afterwards?
Bonus… and those crimes are non prosecutable after leaving office.
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The MAL crimes are not while DJT was in office, and, specifically, the obstruction-related charges. You tell me what immunity would apply to THOSE allegations.
Obstruction was included. Hillary destroyed subpoenaed devices.
Still…. No reasonable prosecutor.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:23 pm to AggieHank86
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I am entirely serious. You "quoted" three words, and I don't know what you are specifically referencing.
Sorry.. if you are clueless of Comey’s speech to the oversight committee informing them that they were letting Hillary Clinton skate after he sat there and outlined Federal crimes…. Then you are too ill informed to be in the discussion.
By the way. I put that phrase into Google…. And articles explaining galore. Google is pretty good. Your wife should show you how to use it.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:27 pm to CleverUserName
quote:Thank you for the context, which is utterly unrelated to our discussion ... hence, my not making the connection between the instant case and your non sequitur.
Comey’s speech to the oversight committee informing them that they were letting Hillary Clinton skate
So, a potential prosecutor in an unrelated case regarding unrelated allegations under unrelated statutes did not favor prosecution of someone in his own party.
Wow. You've just won the internet.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:32 pm to CleverUserName
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Where is the law that mishandling of classified and top secret information is legal while in office… but prosecutable afterwards?
That's not my focus. Those allegations are squishy.
The biggest issue Trump has to face is the set of obstruction of justice allegations from the federal case in Florida.
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Bonus… and those crimes are non prosecutable after leaving office.
What about obstruction of justice?
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Obstruction was included. Hillary destroyed subpoenaed devices.
While in office. We are talking about out of office "immunity".
Also the decision to not prosecute HRC isn't precedent or binding, just FYI.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:32 pm to AggieHank86
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So, a potential prosecutor in an unrelated case regarding unrelated allegations under unrelated statutes did not favor prosecution of someone in his own party.
Lol. One case is mishandling of top secret and classified information where the person is of the favored party.
The other case is of mishandling classified information where the person is of the disfavor.
FBI outlined actual violations in both.
Both had actions (wiping server.. destroying evidence under subpoena) after office.
Yea. Absolutely nothing at all in common. I mean.. this is wreckless driving vs attempted murder here. Just nothing there
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Wow. You've just won the internet.
Well I do know what Google is.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:36 pm to ChexMix
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Just think, if you say God is real, that is somehow a controversial comment.
I believe we are being bullied by a small, but very vocal, minority that has the endorsement of the MSM.
What we will see, and what we are seeing now with the trans narrative, is the dam holding back the opinions of the silent majority beginning to crack.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's not my focus. Those allegations are squishy.
Which ones? The Clinton ones? The ones Comey outlined and explained? That he explained that she most certainly accessed and shared on a personal server? That are obvious violations of law? Squishy?
Or the Trump ones where he had power to declassify?
Which ones?
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The biggest issue Trump has to face is the set of obstruction of justice allegations from the federal case in Florida.
That doesn’t apply to evidence that is destroyed while under subpoena or emails while under an evidence preservation order. Since when??
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While in office. We are talking about out of office "immunity". Also the decision to not prosecute HRC isn't precedent or binding, just FYI.
No shite it isn’t binding. It certainly is precedent though…. Precedent of judicial favoritism.
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While in office. We are talking about out of office "immunity".
Ive asked once about the link that outlines this when federal laws have been violated on storage, sharing, and access of classified information and top secret information. I seem to be having some trouble getting a response on that.
Oh and remember nO oNe iS AboVE tHe LawWW!
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:46 pm to Fun Bunch
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They outmaneuvered him from day 1.
The FBI manufactured evidence against him in coordination with the Democrats. That's not outmaneuvering.
Expecting anyone to be able to stand up to the corrupt power of the United States Federal government is ridiculous.
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They outmaneuvered him from day 1. It had nothing to do with him being "a threat". They saw someone they could do it to, they tried, it worked, so they increasingly took it farther and farther.
You are the same guy who is all bent out of shape because Trump's team told some lies when referencing Desantis.
Abuse of the FBI/DOJ, framing a president is outmaneuvering. Being dishonest about a political opponent is unforgivable.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
It's more amazing how the GOPe has enabled them.
F the uni-party.
F the uni-party.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:50 pm to CleverUserName
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No shite it isn’t binding. It certainly is precedent though…. Precedent of judicial favoritism.
I would assert our "precedence" of 250 years of historic norms in matters such as this is every bit as, if not even much more, important as whatever anyone might think of as being "binding judicial precedent."
Of course, I believe the idea that ANY of this should be looked at in any manner typical of examining "normal judicial proceedings" is as absurd as any part of it, of which all of it certainly is.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Is the GOP fighting back in any way? Going after Democrats for things they've done?
No, we're creaming our pants over a mugshot.
That will work wonders.
No, we're creaming our pants over a mugshot.
That will work wonders.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:13 pm to CleverUserName
quote:You think it would be more reasonable to google three words used by 95% of criminal defense lawyers, rather than just asking what you meant?
I do know what Google is.
OK
quote:quote:
“No reasonable prosecutor” remember?
Thousands of people have said that about thousands of cases through the years. Please give me the author/speaker and some context for your comment.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:14 pm to CleverUserName
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Or the Trump ones
These
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where he had power to declassify?
Maybe. That has not been determined, legally.
It may not be legally determined until after a conviction (if he's not convicted the prosecution can't appeal that part).
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No shite it isn’t binding. It certainly is precedent though
It's not precedent
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Ive asked once about the link that outlines this when federal laws have been violated on storage, sharing, and access of classified information and top secret information. I seem to be having some trouble getting a response on that.
Because you're attempting a non-responsive diversion. Nobody is litigating the HRC case except you (and maybe Hank)
This thread is about what happened to Trump, not Hillary.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:15 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
That’s what you’re supposed to elect Trump for, he’s got the most motivation to do so. And yes he is fully aware of the absolute necessity of selecting the exactly right Attorney General for this to occur, you can be assured. Someone else with that same level of personal motivation, from being illegitimately attacked himself. For instance a Rudy Giuliani type situation would yield that level of personal motivation.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:15 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
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Is the GOP fighting back in any way? Going after Democrats for things they've done?
No, we're creaming our pants over a mugshot.
That will work wonders.
How would you propose we divvy it up?
Which one(s) should I go after?
Which one(s) will you?
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