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re: Italy CV numbers just updated - another 969 deaths

Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:48 pm to
Italy Population Average Age 45.4 years. 5th Oldest Population in the world

They have a lot of really old people.


For reference the Average Age in the US is 38.2 years

61st in the world by age of population.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 12:56 pm to
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That seems like an aggressively high numbe
It may be, and like I said, I think there may be regional time disparities the limit the peak but create a plateau for a period of time instead. This is why I also think that there is a greater chance for the peak to miss on the downside (fewer) than the upside (more), and it's not completely normally distributed.

But here is my rational from the other night at least:
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Using Worldmeter’s data, there are 778 deaths as of today, March 24th. Here are the totals from the Tuesday, of the last 4 Tuesdays (including today).

March 24th—778
March 17th—109
March 10th—30
March 3rd—9

That’s an overall daily growth rate average of 23.7% but here are the daily growth rate averages by week.

March 24th—32.4%
March 17th—20.2%
March 10th—18.8%

So as you can see, the growth rate has been accelerating each week. But even if we just use the 23.7% 3 week daily growth rate average, that would be 15,210 deaths in 14 days 18,809 deaths in 15 days, an increase of 3,599 in one day.

So for that to not happen, the rate would not have to stop accelerating, it would have decelerate, and that deceleration would need to happen quickly. I am hopefully we’ll peak in 2 weeks, and we’ll decelerate the growth, I’m just not hopefully that we won’t hit a 3,000 daily death total at its peak though.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16736 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:00 pm to
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It won't be long before we start hitting 900+ daily deaths.


I'm optimistic enough to say this is unlikely.


Agreed. Id suggest it’s highly unlikely given the nationwide shutdown.

Hard to say what it might look like had we done nothing.

NY officials actually encouraged their city to go out early on and not be afraid of CV. Looks like they are paying dearly.

Too bad that gets no media attention
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162223 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Agreed. Id suggest it’s highly unlikely given the nationwide shutdown.

Hard to say what it might look like had we done nothing.


It probably wouldn't be looking very good that's for sure

I'm as frustrated if not severely more frustrated than anyone about the shut down but it appears it's the right thing to do
Posted by Jinks
Member since Apr 2018
555 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:03 pm to
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So when this thing takes off in the US in two-three weeks what excuses can we use to justify our soon to be outrageous numbers?
McDonald's and Monster energy drinks.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13127 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:04 pm to
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It won't be long before we start hitting 900+ daily deaths.


Why are you downvoting? This is true. There is a reason the mayor is putting 1000 hospital beds in the convention center. shite is getting real right now. Icu patients on vents on Med surg units etc. By my guess we have one more week before we are completely over run.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162223 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:05 pm to
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By my guess we have one more week before we are completely over run.

What city?
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76485 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:07 pm to
Yeah, their doctors and health workers are dropping like flies, making the numbers worse.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:07 pm to
Several other first world countries are at or near the 5% mark. Let’s pray we never get close to that.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:09 pm to
People still don’t get that going on a vent is pretty much the kiss of death, ray.
Posted by PrinceVegeta
Fourchon Beach
Member since Nov 2014
474 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Why are you downvoting? This is true. There is a reason the mayor is putting 1000 hospital beds in the convention center. shite is getting real right now. Icu patients on vents on Med surg units etc. By my guess we have one more week before we are completely over run


Sadly, Most of this board still has their head in the sand, or up their arse, or both, and think this is a big ole nothingburger orchestrated to harm President Trump’ re-election bid. That same ridiculous line of thinking is why our quarantines are a joke and the US is about to take up the butt good and proper.

*Number of downvotes equals number of people that enjoy the smell of their own colon—————>
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Jinks
Member since Apr 2018
555 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:11 pm to
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People still don’t get that going on a vent is pretty much the kiss of death, ray.
I would love to see the number of recoveries of COVID patients that went on a vent. Bet it is super low.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Too bad that gets no media attention


Tucker hasn't forgotten.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162223 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Sadly, Most of this board still has their head in the sand, or up their arse, or both, and think this is a big ole nothingburger orchestrated to harm President Trump’ re-election bid.

Yeah people are saying it's just like any old flu or even worse that it's not even near as bad as the seasonal flu
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65108 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:38 pm to
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As I'm sure you will as well if you are wrong???


I’m not making claims.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:41 pm to
won't be as crowded for the next one
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29764 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:43 pm to
“Hug a Chinaman Day” was such a grand notion. They really showed Trump who the most virtuous was!
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13127 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 6:21 pm to
NOLA
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13127 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 6:22 pm to
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People still don’t get that going on a vent is pretty much the kiss of death, ray.


Pretty much, I’ve seen a few recover but they were younger.
Posted by SteepenTheCurve
Member since Mar 2020
52 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 6:24 pm to
Italy is gonna save so much money on health care once the virus is done killing off all it's old folks.
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