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re: It appears that Zuckerberg lied to Congress

Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:08 am to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:08 am to
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Where exactly do you get your pre picked out fake news



CNBC Aug 17, one of a zillion

Since your Google is obviously broken, why don't you take this story and shove it up your arse?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35379 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:21 am to
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Since your Google is obviously broken, why don't you take this story and shove it up your arse?
You said:
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The leftists were holding him up as a great president hopeful.
And your evidence of this is:
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More signs point to Mark Zuckerberg possibly running for president in 2020
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why don't you take this story and shove it up your arse?

Look I know I’m a poor poster, but you’re absolutely terrible. All you do is insult others. Pathetic really.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 7:22 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:23 am to
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Congress can create a law to fine companies for many infractions, such as, discrimination. FB is discriminating against conservatives by falsely claiming conservatives are a "danger to the community".
FB is allowing real dangers to the community to go unimpeded.
..so yes, Congress could pass a law fining a company that discriminates against a certain group of people.
Aren't libs against discrimination?


Its unfortunate people didnt have these ideas when Net Neutrality was being discussed.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:54 am to
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This is a violation of Freedom of speech. The FB platform is a Freedom of speech platform.


lol no
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:56 am to
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It was a business decision to remove a page visited by millions of people without a specific reason for the removal? Sounds like a really smart business decision.


it may or may not be a smart business decision, but it's not censorship or a freedom of speech issue.

Facebook has a right to associate with who they wish for whatever reason they wish.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97836 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:58 am to
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Facebook has a right to associate with who they wish for whatever reason they wish.


So if you dont like it just go build another platform.

I love liberals
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:03 am to
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So if you dont like it just go build another platform.

I love liberals


suddenly not so free market anymore, eh?

I love fake conservatives who claim to value limited government until they don't
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20861 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:09 am to
Yep - another public fraud just like Clinton
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97836 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:12 am to
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I love fake conservatives


Im a conservative?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:15 am to
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26426 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:19 am to
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He wasn't under oath.



I am not familiar with "being under oath" but I've always thought that you had to be under an investigation to be placed under oath. If government can force you to testify under oath without their being any cause, what's the point of the 1A?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:19 am to
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Zuck claims that FB has contacted Diamond and Silk. DS says FB has NOT contacted them. Was Zuck under oath? Can Congress have him arrested for perjury? He told a blatant lie when he was on the hotseat.
Approx 45 Obama people are now working at FB.
Should Congress pass a law to fine FB up to $1 million per day for reducing traffic to a FB page or removing a person's FB page if an investigation proves there was no just cause;therefore, FB discriminated against a person(s)?
This is a violation of Freedom of speech. The FB platform is a Freedom of speech platform.
DS has a right for other people to hear their voice. FB is discriminating against DS because they are conservative.

LINK
Cruz said that “there are a great many Americans who, I think, are deeply concerned that Facebook and other tech companies are engaged in a pervasive pattern of bias and political censorship.” Cruz noted that Diamond and Silk, sisters who have become famous for their pro-Trump videos, recently said that their Facebook page was blocked after the site determined it to be “unsafe to the community.”


Wow this is crazy and melty.

Right now it's just a he-said-she-said. I don't know why that makes you so certain that he's the one that's lying here. Never mind. I think I do know why. It's because you want so badly to believe that it's true.

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Approx 45 Obama people are now working at FB.


Facebook hires Talent.

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Should Congress pass a law to fine FB up to $1 million per day for reducing traffic to a FB page or removing a person's FB page if an investigation proves there was no just cause;therefore, FB discriminated against a person(s)?


No.

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This is a violation of Freedom of speech.


Nope.

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DS has a right for other people to hear their voice. FB is discriminating against DS because they are conservative.


I thought it was because of all their videos talking about pizzagate and crap like that.

Actually think their videos should stay just so we can have their existence on permanent record so everybody can laugh at it in about 10 years.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50737 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:37 am to
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This is a violation of Freedom of speech. The FB platform is a Freedom of speech platform.


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55613 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:14 am to
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Two issues: 1. the word altogether


It doesn't even come into play...


The fact is the SCOTUS agreed 100% that social media and the ability to be on it falls under the 1st Amendment.


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2. more importantly, this was regarding a case of the GOVERNMENT limiting access to social media


That's right. It is. REGARDLESS it now labels social media as a free speech platform. Like it or not.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55613 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:16 am to
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Look, dumbass, that case was about the government forbidding certain people, like sex offenders, from accsessing social media. It wasn't about the social media provider limiting accsess by certain people.


I know exactly what the case was about. It still establishes that the SCOTUS see's access to Social Media as free speech.

IF you don't get that, you are the dumbass.

Now would you like to address the issue of section 230?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55208 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:18 am to
Yes, it was political theater and nothing else.

Anybody who spent one minute watching it had totally wasted one minute of their lives because nothing said means anything.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:20 am to
Should anyone be surprised?

Hell he even lied about creating Facebook
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55613 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:20 am to
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Hopefully they lose this, their neutrality is in question with the actions they have taken with account closures, post blocking, and an employee termination.


That's right. They have become the publisher and there are responsible for anything that happens now.

Lot's of lawsuits.......
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30415 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:39 pm to
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It doesn't even come into play...


The fact is the SCOTUS agreed 100% that social media and the ability to be on it falls under the 1st Amendment.


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2. more importantly, this was regarding a case of the GOVERNMENT limiting access to social media


That's right. It is. REGARDLESS it now labels social media as a free speech platform. Like it or not.


I reread Packingham this AM and it simply doesn't say what you think it says. There is no question social media can be a free speech platform, however, the court is simply saying the government can't deny the right of one (even a convicted felon) the right to use the various free speech platforms on the internet. Edit: I should have added for completeness that Alito, Thomas and Roberts noted in their concurring opinion that there could be situations where restricting the access to certain sites might be reasonable.

The 1A covers the government limiting free speech and this is what Packingham is all about. You either can't understand the 1A, can't understand the opinion or you are so blinded by your desires you simply see what you want to see.

Note in the opinion Kennedy wrote: "It is well established that, as a general rule, the Government 'may not suppress lawful speech as the means to suppress unlawful speech'." Again the key is government. The court simply noted that the internet is a place where free speech can/does exist but nowhere in the opinion did it place any requirement on internet platforms to allow all of what could be considered free speech.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 4:14 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43660 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:42 pm to
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He wasn't under oath.


Doesn't matter ... it's still a Federal crime to lie to Congress. Being under oath has no bearing on that fact.

He committed a crime right in front of God and everybody on national TV and he should be brought-up on charges of lying to Congress.
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