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It all started on October 7th....
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:54 am
Or did it? Anniversary of the 1948 Tantura Massacre
The Tantura massacre took place on the 22–23 May 1948 during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, when Palestinian villagers were massacred by Israel's Haganah, namely the Alexandroni Brigade. The massacre occurred after the surrender of the village of Tantura, a small village of roughly 1,500 people located near Haifa. The number of those killed is unknown, with estimates ranging from "dozens" to 200+.[1][2][3][a][b][c]
Oral testimonies by surviving Palestinians were met by skepticism. A corroborative 1998 thesis by an Israeli Haifa University graduate Theodore Katz, who interviewed Israeli veterans and survivors, was also met with denial. In a 2022 Israeli documentary film called Tantura, several Israeli veterans interviewed said they had witnessed a massacre at Tantura after the village had surrendered. In 2023, Forensic Architecture published its commissioned investigation of the area and concluded that there were three potential gravesites in the area of the Tel Dor beach that were connected to a massacre.
After the massacre, most of the village was destroyed and its residents were expelled, with many of the women and children being transported to Furaydis. The Israeli kibbutz and beach resort of Nahsholim was established on the site of the depopulated village. The victims were buried in mass graves, one of them presently beneath a parking lot for the nearby Tel Dor beach.
The Tantura massacre took place on the 22–23 May 1948 during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, when Palestinian villagers were massacred by Israel's Haganah, namely the Alexandroni Brigade. The massacre occurred after the surrender of the village of Tantura, a small village of roughly 1,500 people located near Haifa. The number of those killed is unknown, with estimates ranging from "dozens" to 200+.[1][2][3][a][b][c]
Oral testimonies by surviving Palestinians were met by skepticism. A corroborative 1998 thesis by an Israeli Haifa University graduate Theodore Katz, who interviewed Israeli veterans and survivors, was also met with denial. In a 2022 Israeli documentary film called Tantura, several Israeli veterans interviewed said they had witnessed a massacre at Tantura after the village had surrendered. In 2023, Forensic Architecture published its commissioned investigation of the area and concluded that there were three potential gravesites in the area of the Tel Dor beach that were connected to a massacre.
After the massacre, most of the village was destroyed and its residents were expelled, with many of the women and children being transported to Furaydis. The Israeli kibbutz and beach resort of Nahsholim was established on the site of the depopulated village. The victims were buried in mass graves, one of them presently beneath a parking lot for the nearby Tel Dor beach.
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:57 am to gothamdawg
Yes, one of oldest, nearly-continuous conflicts on flat Earth only started on October 7, 2023.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:58 am to LegendInMyMind
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one of oldest, nearly-continuous conflicts on flat Earth
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:59 am to Mo Jeaux
apparently you have never heard of the crusades
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:02 am to Lucky_Stryke
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apparently you have never heard of the crusades
Sure I have. Who are the crusaders in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? The Israelis?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:04 am to gothamdawg
Oct 7th was a huge victory for you people. Congrats!
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:08 am to gothamdawg
did the Jews use rape as a weapon and behead babies back then? Seems the terror attack of 10/7 was a tad more personal and barbaric than this instance you're using to paste your pro Palestine, anti-Semitic narrative.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:11 am to slidingstop
The Israelis have been involved in all sorts of frickery with regards to the Palestinians. They've let Christian Lebanese militia groups go into Palestinian camps and slaughter people before
We can acknowledge that groups like Hamas are terrible but we need to stop pretending the Israelis are some pure innocent bystanders in all of this. Yes the victims of Oct 7th attacks were innocent but their government commits huge human rights atrocities against the Palestinians regularly.
We can acknowledge that groups like Hamas are terrible but we need to stop pretending the Israelis are some pure innocent bystanders in all of this. Yes the victims of Oct 7th attacks were innocent but their government commits huge human rights atrocities against the Palestinians regularly.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:12 am to Mo Jeaux
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Who are the crusaders in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
Arabs dropping in contextless arguments. Love it.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:14 am to the808bass
I’m not an Arab, you weirdo, and how was my response “contextless” when I was responding to a statement about the crusades?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:15 am to slidingstop
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did the Jews use rape as a weapon and behead babies back then? Seems the terror attack of 10/7 was a tad more personal and barbaric than this instance you're using to paste your pro Palestine, anti-Semitic narrative.
Yep. 10x the death toll.
Not sure if the Jews were hammering nails and drilling screws into the vaginas of those women after they raped the women 20x and then lit them on fire before shooting them was a tactic or not.
Because that's what Hamas pieces of shite animals did. They deserve to be wiped off the face of the Earth.
All Muslims enable this and support it. frick every single one of them.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:40 am to slidingstop
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did the Jews use rape as a weapon and behead babies back then? Seems the terror attack of 10/7 was a tad more personal and barbaric than this instance you're using to paste your pro Palestine, anti-Semitic narrative.
Posting actual history is anti-Semitic?
My view is that both sides dehumanize each other. Until they change that, there will be no peace for the Israelis or the Palestinians.
p.s. I don't support what Hammas did, but you know the whole beheading babies thing has been discounted.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:42 am to slidingstop
From Chat GPT:
The claim that Hamas beheaded babies during its attack on Israel on October 7, 2023, has been widely circulated but lacks substantiated evidence. Initial reports from Israeli soldiers and rescue workers suggested that babies had been decapitated, particularly at the Kfar Aza kibbutz. These accounts were amplified by media outlets and political figures, including then-U.S. President Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu .([Al Jazeera][1], [Le Monde.fr][2], [Wikipedia][3])
However, subsequent investigations have cast doubt on these claims. Israeli authorities and forensic experts have not provided concrete evidence to confirm that babies were beheaded during the attacks. For instance, Chen Kugel, head of Israel's National Center of Forensic Medicine, noted that while some bodies, including those of babies, were found without heads, it was unclear whether the decapitations occurred before or after death, or if they were caused by weapons or explosions .([Wikipedia][4])
Further complicating the narrative, a detailed investigation by *Le Monde* traced the origin of the "40 beheaded babies" story to unverified testimonies and media misinterpretations. The report concluded that the rumor was unfounded and highlighted the role of misinformation in escalating tensions during the conflict .([Le Monde.fr][2], [Wikipedia][3])
While Hamas's attack on October 7 involved significant violence and resulted in the deaths of civilians, including children, the specific allegation of babies being beheaded remains unsubstantiated. It's essential to approach such claims with critical scrutiny and rely on verified information to understand the complexities of the conflict.
* [AP News](LINK )
* [Le Monde.fr](LINK )
[1]: LINK "Biden reportedly ignored staff caution on 'beheaded Israeli babies'"
[2]: LINK "'40 beheaded babies': The itinerary of a rumor at the heart of the information battle between Israel and Hamas"
[3]: LINK "Hamas baby beheading hoax"
[4]: LINK "October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel"
The claim that Hamas beheaded babies during its attack on Israel on October 7, 2023, has been widely circulated but lacks substantiated evidence. Initial reports from Israeli soldiers and rescue workers suggested that babies had been decapitated, particularly at the Kfar Aza kibbutz. These accounts were amplified by media outlets and political figures, including then-U.S. President Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu .([Al Jazeera][1], [Le Monde.fr][2], [Wikipedia][3])
However, subsequent investigations have cast doubt on these claims. Israeli authorities and forensic experts have not provided concrete evidence to confirm that babies were beheaded during the attacks. For instance, Chen Kugel, head of Israel's National Center of Forensic Medicine, noted that while some bodies, including those of babies, were found without heads, it was unclear whether the decapitations occurred before or after death, or if they were caused by weapons or explosions .([Wikipedia][4])
Further complicating the narrative, a detailed investigation by *Le Monde* traced the origin of the "40 beheaded babies" story to unverified testimonies and media misinterpretations. The report concluded that the rumor was unfounded and highlighted the role of misinformation in escalating tensions during the conflict .([Le Monde.fr][2], [Wikipedia][3])
While Hamas's attack on October 7 involved significant violence and resulted in the deaths of civilians, including children, the specific allegation of babies being beheaded remains unsubstantiated. It's essential to approach such claims with critical scrutiny and rely on verified information to understand the complexities of the conflict.
* [AP News](LINK )
* [Le Monde.fr](LINK )
[1]: LINK "Biden reportedly ignored staff caution on 'beheaded Israeli babies'"
[2]: LINK "'40 beheaded babies': The itinerary of a rumor at the heart of the information battle between Israel and Hamas"
[3]: LINK "Hamas baby beheading hoax"
[4]: LINK "October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel"
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:46 am to roadGator
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Oct 7th was a huge victory for you people. Congrats!
My view is that Oct 7th was a continuation of ongoing atrocities in this conflict, not the beginning or end.
People who state that the conflict began on Oct 7th are either lying or don't understand the history of the issue. And this will never lead to peace for Israel.
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