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Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:17 pm to
In your opinion as a.....what, certified theologian?!?!
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:21 pm to
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I'm a Christian and MY God, the God of the Jews, has a Son who IS the Messiah.


I worship a triune God. The Jews do not. We do not worship the same God. They rejected that God.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:24 pm to
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In your opinion as a.....what, certified theologian?!?!


You have to take each religion at their stated beliefs. Of course you aren't going to agree with all religious formation's beliefs- but they alone get to say what they believe.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:25 pm to
Wait! (not that this has anything to do with the subject of this post, but anyway...) Are you saying that the God of the Old Testament is not the God of the New Testament? Because, if you are, we have a problem.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Are you saying that the God of the Old Testament is not the God of the New Testament? Because, if you are, we have a problem.


Read my post again.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:29 pm to
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but they alone get to say what they believe.


This middle school level concept is above their heads.

It's very simple, I could say that I worship the Egyptian God Horus, and that I don't give a frick what attributes the Egyptians assign to him - that I don't see him as having the head of a falcon, but instead the head of a grizzly bear. No matter what conservative moms in Egypt may think about it, it doesn't change the fact that I worship the Egyptian God Horus.

Again, this is logic a middle school child should be able to understand, but it's beyond this person's depth.

And folks wonder why there is an apostasy in the church these days.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 4:30 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:31 pm to
But if there are clear errors and arguments to back those errors, they must be pointed out so people are not being misled.

Just as there are arguments for combating the Satanists, the JWs, etc. so there are arguments for combating the muslims.

As for beliefs yes, we live in a country where we can still believe anything we want. Still!
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:34 pm to
There seem to be quite a few people wondering about your competence today! Clearly, when pushed, all you can respond with is infantile insults and illusions of expertise. Sad!
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:35 pm to
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But if there are clear errors and arguments to back those errors, they must be pointed out so people are not being misled.


Lordy, lady... you are putting me in an uncomfortable position

The muslims don't agree there are errors in their islamic theology. For that matter, neither do Christians, nor do Jews.

I think (know) they are wrong. They think I'm wrong. That's kind of how it works.

I am NOT a judaic nor islamic apologist.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:37 pm to
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There seem to be quite a few people wondering about your competence today!


I'm sorry you struggle so hard with basic logic. At the end of the day, you do not speak for 2 billion people as to which God they worship or what his/her attributes may be.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:41 pm to
Oh dear, wouldn't want to put you in an 'uncomfortable' position, not online!

Hope you never have to dissuade someone from converting to islam!
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:42 pm to
Nope, I leave that to you.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Call him whatever the frick you want, what I'm telling you is that all 3 faiths worship the God of Abraham.


Yet she will defend the one who doesn't recognize His Son!

All while telling you how wrong you are for the other one NOT having a son?

Mental gymnastics of the Boomers on full display today.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:47 pm to
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Oh dear, wouldn't want to put you in an 'uncomfortable' position, not online! Hope you never have to dissuade someone from converting to islam!


Christ really shines in your posts, congratulations!
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:50 pm to
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Of course no Jewish theologian will argue that their God had a son.

But as someone else already asked, is the New Testament not based on the Old Testament? How, then, is that not a Judeo-Christian legacy?!?!


Now you answer this: Was Jesus a Jew? Yes or no.

I was emphasizing just one small way that the Christian God is in no way related to the muslim deity.


You are really bad at this apologetics thing. You should probably talk to some of your more experienced friends before you try arguing this again. Your logic makes no sense.

So, if both Muslims and Jews both deny that their god has a son, how can one be different than the other?

The New Testament is a sequel to the Old Testament. So is the Quran.

The Book of Mormon is a sequel to the New Testament.

Was Jesus a Jew? The New Testament claims he was. But Jews don't acknowledge Jesus as a messiah, or that he even existed.

Muslims acknowledge his existence and consider him to be a prophet.

Try harder next time.

Posted by tyler925
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:52 pm to
Christian Zionism is heresy and is a one way street.

There are no Judeo Christian values.

Jesus Christ is king. Acceptance of him is your only salvation. He is the new and everlasting covenant and all covenants before him are superseded.



Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:56 pm to
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He is the new and everlasting covenant and all covenants before him are superseded.



Where in the New Testament is God's covenant with Abraham revoked exactly?
Posted by tyler925
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:57 pm to
Jesus Christ is king. Acceptance of him is your only salvation. He is the new and everlasting covenant and all covenants before him are superseded.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:57 pm to
Well, since you believe the Book of Mormon is something other than science fiction, I will not even attempt to understand whatever information you are trying to bring to the table.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 4:58 pm to
Careful now, you may be dealing with a Bible 'expert.'
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