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re: Israel has over 80% vaccinated. . .still getting raped by COVID

Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:31 pm to
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Bring us some stats. How About - how many children presently counted as Covid hospitalizations are asymptomatic for Covid?


I dont know. I completely agree the kid stuff is fear mongering and they need to stop it
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:32 pm to
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Found the moron



Rather you have exposed yourself.. are you denying Fauci's claim or it's inaccuracy?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:33 pm to
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Honesty I know you have a hard on for hating me


Don't overestimate how little I care about you one way or the other. I don't take anything here personally. As I said, I respect your information. I have an issue when you attack people without understanding what they are saying or sharing. You constantly wield a club ready to bash anyone over the head with it. That doesn't make many want to have a discussion with you.
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:33 pm to
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More than 350 people have died of the disease in the first three weeks of August.


So 350 died in 3 weeks. Louisiana had 59 die in just 1 day on August 23rd. We also have half the population of Israel.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:33 pm to
It’s not quite the same. There is a definite acceleration of decreased immunity with Pfizer.

The Oxford preprint has charts with graphs. The line for AZ efficacy is almost linear, y=mx+b type stuff. Pfizer begins to curve after about 60 days post-2nd dose. It definitely loses efficacy faster than other vaccines. It starts out more efficacious then deteriorates faster.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:33 pm to
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I dont know. I completely agree the kid stuff is fear mongering and they need to stop it

Does it make any logical sense that assholes so bent politically that they’d gaslight parents with fake Covid fear would draw the line at kids, and not do the same thing for all age groups?
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:34 pm to
How does Moderna compare for decreased immunity?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:35 pm to
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The Oxford preprint has charts with graphs. The line for AZ efficacy is almost linear, y=mx+b type stuff. Pfizer begins to curve after about 60 days post-2nd dose. It definitely loses efficacy faster than other vaccines. It starts out more efficacious then deteriorates faster.


Possibly against infection, but against severe disease this simply doesn’t appear to be true with Pfizer

Seeing roughly only a 4% efficacy drop in those under 60 and roughly an 8% drop
I’m those over 60
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:35 pm to
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are you denying Fauci's claim
Pretty safe bet to disabuse yourself of anything Fauci says.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:35 pm to
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So just like natural immunity




My wife is going on month 10. I am only on month 4 but as of a few weeks ago we both still have antibodies.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:36 pm to
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My wife is going on month 10. I am only on month 4 but as of a few weeks ago we both still have antibodies.

Vaccine trial participants still have antibodies over 12 months out as well

It’s pretty clear both groups have a subset that does have waning immunity over time

I would imagine in both groups that leans heavily to those with less than ideal immune systems
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:37 pm to
I had strong antibodies from my infection last October, when I got my vax a month ago
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:37 pm to
Oxford print didn’t have any data for 2nd dose Moderna, but 1st dose Moderna was statistically significantly superior to Pfizer against delta.

Other data suggests Moderna is still 85%ish effective against delta versus 75ish for Pfizer after two doses.

It makes sense because Moderna whips your arse more, so it probably confers better immunity.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8049 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:37 pm to
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Bring us some stats. How About - how many children presently counted as Covid hospitalizations are asymptomatic for Covid?

Let’s see that stat.

Anybody?



Do you have that stat? I'm intrigued, haven't heard this before. Or is this just shite sliding down the wall as they would say?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:39 pm to
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It’s pretty clear both groups have a subset that does have waning immunity over time



I know over time we will figure out why both fade faster in certain people than others. Maybe being exposed to it helps keep the antibodies functioning?

My wife and I have both been exposed to it a few times since getting it. One of my workers had it just two weeks ago and of course, my wife was exposed to it when I was sick.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:39 pm to
I have two buddies who said it had them down for about 36 hours
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111295 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:41 pm to
I felt shittier than anyone else I know after the Pfizer vaccine, but is suspect I had covid right before taking the shot as I had gone completely smell and taste free

So likely my body recognized the shot I suppose
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:41 pm to
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Mabe being exposed to it helps keep the antibodies functioning?


Youd assume so

Ive attended several super spreader events over last few months, gotta keep my T cells primed
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131485 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:42 pm to
My arm was sore for a couple days both shots. Thats it
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:42 pm to
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Ive attended several super spreader events over last few months, gotta keep my T cells primed



Just start sucking on test swabs at work if you think your antibodies are waning.
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