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re: Israel destroys fake news polls, Bibi wins 5th term
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:24 am to BugAC
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:24 am to BugAC
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See WW2 for reference.
This is what I am talking about. America has given enough lives, money, and support so that Israel could be created in 1948. We have done enough. They can go find another Sugar Daddy.
It is absolutely not the responsibility of United States citizens, money, or military to babysit Israel. They choose to be located in that region they can deal with it.
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:24 am to Jake_LaMotta
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Israel would fold in 6 months without our support
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Israel can deal with the Muslims in that region without us holding their hand
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:27 am to Jake_LaMotta
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That isn't our problem
Would you rather Israel cozy up to Russia and buy their military assets from them or buy them from us. It's not like Israel can manufacture all the weapons needed for a war if necessary.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:32 am to Homesick Tiger
I don't care what Israel does. Let them go extort some other country for Welfare. We have given them enough. How many more American lives should be lost over that shithole? How much more money should we give them?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:32 am to Jake_LaMotta
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America has given enough lives, money, and support so that Israel could be created in 1948. We have done enough.
I don't like the idea of our military, our tax dollars, and our policies should be used as the world police. But, it is what it is. Sadly, if we withdraw support from countries like Israel, then war would happen. It's what keeps the jihadi's at bay. The strength of the US. If we turned our back on our ally, 1) our foreign relations would go completely to shite and 2) nukes would fly.
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t is absolutely not the responsibility of United States citizens, money, or military to babysit Israel. They choose to be located in that region they can deal with it.
Again, what you are saying sounds good on the surface. Isolationism sounds much better than sticking our noses all around the globe. But, the fact remains, many nations across the globe only exist because of our protection. We may not like it, but we are the good guys. Evil will try and destroy the other good guys across the globe, but our might is the only thing holding them back.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:33 am to Indefatigable
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Why do you care about this? The infatuation with Israel makes absolutely no sense to me.
It is because israel is the actual leader of the united states of america.
They have started calling usa golem of israel, or goi for short but often just spell it goy.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:34 am to Jake_LaMotta
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that shithole
You know nothing
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:35 am to Jeff Boomhauer
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That's like your opinion man
The Israelis certainly don’t think of us as friends.
There’s a reason we’re their number one espionage target, and they have the third largest spy ring in the country, behind Russia and China.
You can be sure that any relationship with Israel will be one sided. And will only benefit Israel.
From the attack on the USS Liberty, which lasted more than an hour and a half killing 34 Americans and wounding 171, to Jonathan Pollard, who was tasked with obtaining intelligence they could sell to the Soviets, to Lawrence Franklin and AIPAC, our relationship has been one sided - and unfortunate.
The people of the Middle East revil in trickery and using people. This is true of the Saudis, and it’s doubly true of the Israelis.
We are a tool in their hands, and is they do not respect us, because of that, but they also resent us. Because they are so dependent on us.
When Netanyahu brag about what he’s gotten from Trump, he’s taking pride in his ability to extract things at no cost to himself or Israel.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:36 am to ElroyJetSon
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You know nothing
I have been to the Middle East many times. Israel is absolutely a filthy shithole when compared to other countries in that region. You just won't hear about it because people won't praise or admit that Muslim controlled/occupied cities can be very modern and clean and also safe. This has been discussed on here many times.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:40 am to Jake_LaMotta
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have been to the Middle East many times. Israel is absolutely a filthy shithole when compared to other countries in that region
Hahaha so have I. This is patently false.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:42 am to ElroyJetSon
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This is patently false.
Not to anyone that doesn't have some bizarre Israel bias which you have clearly shown. It is scary to think how much of more of a shithole that place would be without all our support and money.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:46 am to Jake_LaMotta
The only reason it would turn into any sort of shithole would be because of its neighboring shithole countries who admit to wanting nothing more than for Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:03 am to Indefatigable
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Why do you care about this? The infatuation with Israel makes absolutely no sense to me.
I second that emotion. How much trade does the US have with Israel? Other than pirouline wafers and halvah bars I can think of nothing they produce that we buy.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:18 am to Ace Midnight
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Do you consider the Palestinian authority as feeding off the United States like "a tick"?
Yes
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Do you consider the Palestinian Authority a stabilizing force in the ME?
No.
Both Israel and the Palestinians are irresponsible. They act solely in their own immediate interest, and are fundamentally opposed to any type of stability or ME peace agreement.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:21 am to BugAC
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It's what keeps the jihadi's at bay.
Wrong. Our largely unwanted presence in the region and unwavering support of Israel creates exponentially more extremists than would ever hope to exist in our absence.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:23 am to Indefatigable
The Middle East would be better off without us.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:53 am to More&Les
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The remaining votes to be counted include solders’ ballots, which tend historically to skew to the right.
Not much different than in American elections.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:53 am to BestBanker
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Obama''s lost control of Israeli elections
Not for lack of trying.
What most people are clueless about is that if any government ever attempted to influence an election beyond their borders it was when Obama sent David Axlerod to Israel four years ago trying to beat Netenyahuh.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:53 am to Jake_LaMotta
Israel had a great Prime Minister in Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated by an extremist right-winger on Nov. 4, 1995 (during the third quarter of LSU/Alabama, no less!)
Since that horrific incident the governance of the Jewish state has just gotten more extreme, and Israel has rightly become the pariah of the civilised world.
Since that horrific incident the governance of the Jewish state has just gotten more extreme, and Israel has rightly become the pariah of the civilised world.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:08 am to tarzana
Nothing embodies the civilised(sic) world better than Pakistan.
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