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re: Israel being attacked

Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:03 am to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:03 am to
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that is true even if they make Gaza a parking lot.. it won’t erase them from the West Bank or anywhere else in the world.. you can’t kill them all.. so while I agree that they need to hit them back, we will still be right back here in 10 years.. 20 years.. etc



Gaza way crazier than the West Bank. The authorities that run West Bank HATE Hamas.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 6:23 am to
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NEW - King Abdullah II: "No Gaza refugees in Jordan or Egypt."
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 7:05 am to
Israel can't defeat Ham and Hez in a two-front war? You born last week?. Israel has taken on Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, help from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran ALL at one time and made them cry like 2 little old girls within a week! They destroyed half of the entire Egyptian army and made the other half walk back to Egypt in their underwear, barefoot.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 7:33 am to
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Israel can't defeat Ham and Hez in a two-front war?


I believe they’ll take too many casualties in Gaza and they’ll pause combat operations offering Hamas a humanitarian ceasefire. It will be their way out. The urban terrain neutralizes many of their technical advantages, and will stress their relative weaknesses. With Hezbollah, Hezbollahs forces are better trained and much more experienced than the IDF. They’re qualitatively superior. The problem for Israel are the rocket forces though. Hezbollah can inflict damage in a scale that Israel can not afford. Fighting both at once is more than they can handle.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3264 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:18 am to
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Why would Israel need the US? Why should the US get involved? What do we get in return?


The Israelis get weapons, parts and ammo from the US. Biden is using this to keep them on a leash. The Biden administration will do anything to keep the Iran deal together.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 8:22 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76384 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:25 am to
I wonder what the MiC and the Dems would think about a Chinese rocket sold to Russia then ending up in Iran which in turn ended up Lebanon fired at AF One?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103887 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:48 am to
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NEW - King Abdullah II: "No Gaza refugees in Jordan or Egypt."


Unless Iran steps up, which they won’t, the choices seem to be “stay in place”, “find someone else to take them”, or “kill them all and let God sort them out.”

TBH, genocide is never a first choice but Hamas makes it appealing.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39213 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:48 am to
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Israel can't defeat Ham and Hez in a two-front war? You born last week?. Israel has taken on Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, help from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran ALL at one time and made them cry like 2 little old girls within a week! They destroyed half of the entire Egyptian army and made the other half walk back to Egypt in their underwear, barefoot.

That guy doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the desert.
ETA: I was talking about Lima.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103887 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:51 am to
Both are true simultaneously.

The Six Day War was a major win.

The current Israeli army is not able to pull off a Six Day War sized victory, mainly because the areas in question are heavily urban and that was the part of 1967 that gave them the most trouble.


Whipping Egypt’s arse by taking out their entire air force then having complete air superiority over a conventional army works.

Urban fighting with a bunch of assholes who are on their home turf and who have supplies and tunnels everywhere? Less so. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t level the entirety of Gaza City anyway.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20863 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:12 am to
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Urban fighting with a bunch of assholes who are on their home turf and who have supplies and tunnels everywhere? Less so. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t level the entirety of Gaza City anyway.



Actually its not. Israel just has to decide if they want to take the backlash for scattering the cockroaches by destroying every building in Gaza with bombs.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:07 am to
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Actually its not. Israel just has to decide if they want to take the backlash for scattering the cockroaches by destroying every building in Gaza with bombs.


Maybe Israel has a lot to gain from always being terrorized by Gaza? It may sound like a joke but something like that does help to consolidate support, justify bypassing red tape, and marginalize all your critics as terrorist sympathizers.

Iran doesn't care about Gaza. Gaza is Arab and Sunni, where as Iran is Persian and Shiite. Gaza is just a useful tool for Iran. They are disposable. Hezbollah, on the other hand..
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
73035 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:39 am to
You would have expected this but the Ford just announced extended deployment.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:59 am to
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You would have expected this but the Ford just announced extended deployment.




No, that's totally expected. America is Israel's bitch.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26427 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:03 am to
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The leader of the largest military in the world…while they are at war…yeah I’m sure they will turn him away.


I'm sure they want his advice so they know what not to do.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26427 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:11 am to
The IDF should go into Gaza and block by block destroy every building until it is a parking lot. Then do seismic mapping of the underground tunnel systems and drop bunker busters on them.

Then every Israeli citizen should be required to own a firearm and be proficient with it Swiss Army style. Make shooting contests, ranges and shooting clubs all the rage.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103887 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:30 am to
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Then every Israeli citizen should be required to own a firearm and be proficient with it Swiss Army style. Make shooting contests, ranges and shooting clubs all the rage.


They’d had tight gun control to this point with regards to who could own one and how many bullets they could buy.

They may be rethinking that one after this since the IDF couldn’t respond for hours in some cases.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24839 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:40 am to
It would take time and a lot of intelligence, both which Israel has. It can be done with less blood loss on the Israel side than you think. The bombs they are dropping now are much more efficient with the tunnels than in the previous fights.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26427 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:53 am to
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quote:
Then every Israeli citizen should be required to own a firearm and be proficient with it Swiss Army style. Make shooting contests, ranges and shooting clubs all the rage.


They’d had tight gun control to this point with regards to who could own one and how many bullets they could buy.

They may be rethinking that one after this since the IDF couldn’t respond for hours in some cases.



Yeah. Instead of hours for resistance to begin while terrorists roamed and killed among the defenseless, it would be almost instantaneous.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:00 pm to
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The IDF should go into Gaza and block by block destroy every building until it is a parking lot.


Man, I can't imagine why anyone hates Israel....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298477 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Man, I can't imagine why anyone hates Israel....


Is he IDF?
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