re: Is there such thing as a basic human right?

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I didn't say anything about justice or injustice.

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You did, you just aren't following your premise through that far.

A "right" is defined by MW as, "A moral and possibly legally codified entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way."

You can't separate rights from morality, because if someone really has a right to something, it's immoral or unjust to deprive them of that right.

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Yeah, this is actual history you're describing.

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No, I wasn't describing history, I was asking you that if the majority changed their minds again and decided that blacks should be enslaved again, in 2025, you'd just say, "O.k., easy come, easy go, those rights."

I don't believe you if you say you would.

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Rights are distributed by society, often in a unjust way.

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No, rights are protected or enforced by society, often in an imperfect way.

You asked someone else above why it matters where rights come from if society has to enforce them.

The discussion we're having is exactly why it matters. If I see that the basis for rights is that we have been endowed with them by our Creator, then I can speak to a society that is violating them and say, "This is wrong. I don't care if the majority wants black people to be enslaved (they did at the time), they have the right to be free like everybody else!"

There is an authority to appeal to besides the majority show of hands. The mob, in other words.

If I deny that basis for rights, there is no authority to appeal to other than the mob majority.

You asked why it matters what the founding fathers wrote and what the foundational concept of rights in America are. If we followed your logic here, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 might still not be a thing, as the majority of Americans didn't support it at the time. Same with women's suffrage.

You focus on the fact that we didn't follow our own ideals for a couple hundred years after the country was founded with respect to certain people having certain rights and conclude that that is evidence that it doesn't matter what the ideals are.

I come to a different conclusion. What I see is that absent the ideals, we might still be depriving people of their inherent rights. The ideals are the only thing we have to appeal to other than the whims of the masses.