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Is there an example of the Dems holding back their wants out of fear of the GOP?

Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109336 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:56 pm
Supposedly everything the GOP does when they are in power must be tempered by the fear of "opening the door" for when the Dems might take back control.

I've never seen Dems express such fear or concern on the flipside when they are power, but maybe I've missed someithing.

Has anyone else seen this out of them and able to give me an example of what and when?

All I see is a one way street on this, but I'm willing to admit it's just my skewed perception.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14226 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
Dems are "by any means necessary" to grab power. They will flip 180 on a dime, if necessary, to achieve this goal.

Just look at their cancel culture "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" stance change from then to now.

frick them. Crush them. No mercy.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

All I see is a one way street on this, but I'm willing to admit it's just my skewed perception.


I guess the most recent example of the GOP changing the rules that will be used against them in the future was in the senate when John Thune used the nuclear option to bypass the Democrat cloture vote so Trump's nominees can get nominated with a simple majority.

That will be used against the GOP to appoint Democrat appointments in the future.

ETA: it doesn't really matter because the GOP has given the Democrats almost every nominee they have nominated anyway.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109336 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

I guess the most recent example of the GOP changing the rules that will be used against them in the future was in the senate when John Thune used the nuclear option to bypass the Democrat cloture vote so Trump's nominees can get nominated with a simple majority.

That will be used against the GOP to appoint Democrat appointments in the future.


To be clear, I'm not trying to assert that it should NEVER actually be a fear of GOP lawmakers.

I'm just wondering if and when it's ever been one for the Democrats.
Posted by TPAWZ
Member since Dec 2011
264 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:05 pm to
If the Liberals were in control right now we would have a supreme court with 42 justices. Take a wild guess how many would be Liberal Justices.

if you guess 36 you would be right. They would also kill the filibuster in congress so that they could ramrod their agenda down our throats.

Not buying anything they have to sell anymore.

Every time I hear them say we need to turn down the temperature, I know they don't mean it. They absolutely mean the Conservatives need to shut up and stop resisting their insane agenda.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:06 pm to
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That will be used against the GOP to appoint Democrat appointments in the future.
Was used by Democrats back before 2016, and then used by the GOP after telling the democrats not to do it.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Was used by Democrats back before 2016, and then used by the GOP after telling the democrats not to do it.



IIRC that was only on SCOTUS nominations. Now it's on all nominations.
Posted by BoomerandSooner
Top of Texas
Member since Sep 2025
855 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:11 pm to
Democrats suddenly caring about the border in June 2024 because they knew it was loser for them in the upcoming election.

LINK
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109336 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:19 pm to
Acting out of political expediency is not the same thing of acting out of fear of potential retribution from the other side.

Democrats can still on rare occasion act out of political expediency.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16926 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:22 pm to
Socialized medicine. They had to characterize Obamacare as not socialized medicine to ram it through
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18764 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Is there an example of the Dems holding back their wants out of fear of the GOP?
** puts on pretend dem mask to answer OP **

"you are a Nazi, homophobe, transphobe, racist and smelt of elderberries for even asking that question and I demand the FBI freeze your bank accounts and launch an investigation into you, all family within 3 generations, any associates (personal or business) with particular intrusive tactics for your wife"
Posted by BoomerandSooner
Top of Texas
Member since Sep 2025
855 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:27 pm to
The retribution is knowing all those potential illegals going toward census counts in sanctuary cities and states would be gone if Trump got back in office. Bear with me as I am an Okie, so logic is not our strong point and I could be completely misunderstanding the premise.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109336 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:29 pm to
That's a bit more nuanced than what I was getting at, but I'll give it to you.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5892 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:30 pm to
Never seen the Dems say this.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3553 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Supposedly everything the GOP does when they are in power must be tempered by the fear of "opening the door" for when the Dems might take back control.

I've never seen Dems express such fear or concern on the flipside when they are power, but maybe I've missed someithing.

Several of their frickups have been used against them. We can all thank Harry Reid for Trump getting three justices on the court. That was all his handywork.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3553 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I guess the most recent example of the GOP changing the rules that will be used against them in the future was in the senate when John Thune used the nuclear option to bypass the Democrat cloture vote so Trump's nominees can get nominated with a simple majority.

That will be used against the GOP to appoint Democrat appointments in the future.

I'm still not clear on why the GOP cannot simply put the rule back in place once the nominees are confirmed. Shady yes, but what would stop them besides optics?
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