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re: Is racism gone in Georgia now? Did they change the voting laws?

Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:07 pm to
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If they made a law that required you to show up with a rap album to vote it would disproportionately affect elderly white people.




Would said rap album already be legally required to have for other things?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:08 pm to
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they made a law that required you to show up with a rap album to vote it would disproportionately affect elderly white people.
Does a rap album prove you are an actual human being voting as you say you are?

Do you not think it’s insane we are one of the only places in the world where official ID isn’t required to vote?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:10 pm to
I think votes should be verified and im fine with Georgia voting laws.

That doesnt mean Dave Roberts was an extremist or wrong for saying the new law would stop black people from voting at a (however slightly) higher rate than other races.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:15 pm to
No no

He said the purpose of the law is to surpass black people from voting
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:16 pm to
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That doesnt mean Dave Roberts was an extremist or wrong for saying the new law would stop black people from voting at a (however slightly) higher rate than other races.


Then that would be the CHOICE of black people. You just admitted that maybe they just don’t want to. That takes suppression off the table.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:17 pm to
It may not have been the underlying purpose for passing the law but it was absolutely a known effect.
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Then that would be the CHOICE of black people. You just admitted that maybe they just don’t want to. That takes suppression off the table.

Suppress does not mean prevent.

It can mean discourage as well.

Someone that wants to vote but would have to go get a new ID under the new law could be discouraged from doing so.

Under the old law they could (and may have) provide alternate forms of identification.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41087 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:20 pm to
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That doesnt mean Dave Roberts was an extremist or wrong for saying the new law would stop black people from voting at a (however slightly) higher rate than other races.



Not really what he said at all, but taking this statement at face value. The only way this statement can be correct, is if you believe that they are incapable of getting said ID. Otherwise, the new law wouldn't stop any one group from voting more than another, their own apathy would.

Since we want to talk about disproportionate impact though, we could discuss the disproporationate impact from a reactionary snap decision to move the game from a predominantly black city, ripping the tens of millions of dollars of revenue away, and sending it to a predominantly white city.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Otherwise, the new law wouldn't stop any one group from voting more than another, their own apathy would.

But if they care just enough to vote under the old law and not enough to get an ID to vote under the new law, they still stopped voting because of the new law.

I dont think its a loss or a significant number, but it is still (however large or slight) suppression.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41087 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:34 pm to
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But if they care just enough to vote under the old law and not enough to get an ID to vote under the new law, they still stopped voting because of the new law. I dont think its a loss or a significant number, but it is still (however large or slight) suppression.


lol no.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:48 pm to
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Suppress does not mean prevent.


Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:56 pm to
How does the law discourage black people from voting?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41087 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:57 pm to
Based on the definition you have provided, “I don’t want to” does not qualify as a valid criteria to meet for voter suppression.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Nowhere. Black people can get ID.

So what’s stricter about it then?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:59 pm to
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If they made a law that required you to show up with a rap album to vote it would disproportionately affect elderly white people.

You have big time trouble with comparisons lol
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:01 pm to
any extra hurdle introduced will discourage some people from voting....

The new law limited the number of ballot drop boxes and restricted their locations to inside early voting sites during office hours only. Some people will be discouraged by not being able to get off work and make it to the drop box during office hours.

Another law replaced signature matching with voter ID requirements for absentee ballots, meaning voters now need to provide a driver's license number, state ID number, or a copy of an acceptable voter ID.

That will discourage people that don't have an ID and can no longer just sign the ballot.

I can understand disagreeing with voting without requiring ID. I don't see how you can honestly say it won't discourage ANYONE from voting and every single person that would have voted under the old laws will go get an ID to vote under the new laws..
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:01 pm to
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That doesnt mean Dave Roberts was an extremist or wrong for saying the new law would stop black people from voting at a (however slightly) higher rate than other races.

You have done so much mental gymnastics today you don’t even know where you are right now lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:03 pm to
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That doesnt mean Dave Roberts was an extremist or wrong for saying the new law would stop black people from voting at a (however slightly) higher rate than other races.

Does the law do this or does the laziness of black people do this?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51944 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:03 pm to
Dude it’s so awesome to see a true centrist like Corinthians420 fighting for our right to pretend to not be a liberal
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:03 pm to
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they still stopped voting because of the new law.

No. They stopped voting becuase they are lazy and/or don’t care lol
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