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re: Is it okay to complain about gas prices here?

Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:53 am to
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4963 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:53 am to
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We can go all the way back to Carter you commie.


We can go all the way back to Nixon you fascie.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40090 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:14 am to
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We can go all the way back to Nixon you fascie


So you're admitting it's not Trumps fault.


Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4963 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:33 am to
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So you're admitting it's not Trumps fault.


So you’re admitting it’s not Obamas fault.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12952 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:35 am to
Paid $4.29 for premium at Costco this morning. Funny how this was unacceptable under Biden but MAGA is using every mental gymnastics imaginable to make excuses.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12952 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:40 am to
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You might have to spend $10 more per week to filll up instead of $6. Is this your definition of the global economy being brought to its knees


Were you posting this logic when Biden was president?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69683 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:42 am to
I don't understand why oil isn't $180 right now. This guy did a deep dive and cited the Economist on the China part. With the Houthis now involved, I don't think a crisis is that far off. Don't forget Trump's quotes about signing the MOU because we were four weeks from some kind of running out and he didn't want to be Herbert Hoover.

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An editor of The Economist once said: “We are a paper of opinion and views. We stick our neck out and consequently risk having it chopped from time to time.” The oil price has delivered such a blow. At the end of April, almost two months after America and Israel attacked Iran, we said oil traders were in “la-la land” thinking that oil prices would fall to $88 by the end of the year. Today Brent crude costs just over $70 a barrel. Our prediction went about as well as the war.

We got it wrong for two reasons. First, we thought that America and Iran would hold out against a deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz: America because Mr Trump deludedly thought he held the whip hand, Iran because its regime knew its people could be made to endure more pain. In fact, facing the fury of American motorists, Mr Trump all but folded, preventing a disaster. Since the two parties struck a provisional deal in June, enough oil has been getting out of the Gulf to reassure markets that supply is coming back online, even if the future of the strait remains uncertain.

Our second oversight was, like others, not anticipating the staggering degree to which China would be able to slash its oil imports. Crude imports are 5m barrels a day lower than a year ago, despite the fall in prices. China has cut its demand and shored up supply. Its oil reserves are opaque—many barrels are hidden from satellites underground, and there is a blurred line between official reserves and corporate inventories. But they have been shown to be a powerful buffer.


Indeed, the Economist was so embarrassed by its mistaken analysis that its staff used AI to analyze and evaluate the accuracy of some 7,000 of its previous leaders of the last quarter-century, noting that although many of its other political, economic, and financial predictions had been pretty good, its track-record on predicting oil prices had often been abysmal.

I can’t remember the last time that the Economist had issued such a lengthy and detailed editorial apology. I doubt that had even happened after its strong support for the Iraq War based upon Saddam’s fictional WMDs turned out to be so disastrously wrong. Indeed, the Economist had shoved that colossal blunder so far down the memory-hole that around the twentieth anniversary it published a column condemning all the elite consensus behind that geopolitical calamity without even acknowledging that it itself had played a starring role at the time.

I can easily understand why the editors of a business magazine such as the Economist capitulated to the oil markets, and the reasons they gave for their erroneous predictions hardly reflected that badly upon them.

They had never expected that Trump would sign a document in which he surrendered to all the Iranian demands, thereby getting the Strait reopened.

They also never expected that China would reduce its oil imports by a colossal 5 million barrels per day, a figure large enough that it cut the entire global oil shortfall nearly in half.

Everyone knew that China possessed colossal strategic oil reserves estimated at 1.4 billion barrels, a total far greater than those of the rest of the world combined and many times larger than our own. But neither the Economist nor any other analyst had ever expected the Chinese to expend those reserves in order to save the world economy from the folly of America’s Iran War.

The exact reasons for this unexpected Chinese decision were unclear. Some speculated that China feared skyrocketing oil prices would produce a global recession that impoverished all their customers worldwide. Others suspected that Trump had worked out some deal with the Chinese, perhaps offering them major concessions on Taiwan. But for whatever reason, the partial release of China’s enormous stockpiles had obviously had a major effect on world prices.

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Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13509 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:42 am to
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Prices have been higher during this Trump term than the entire time Biden stickers were showing up on pumps.

Absolute bullshite.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140648 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:49 am to
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Funny how this was unacceptable under Biden but MAGA is using every mental gymnastics imaginable to make excuses.
There are obviously nuances of derivation.

However, if the presumption is that Trump and/or his team made mistakes in estimating resilience of the Iranian issue, I think that would be fair. I think it would also be fair to say that if gas is greater than $4/gallon entering October, it will negatively affect GOP results in the mid terms, and put limiters on the remainder of Trump's presidency.
Posted by ItalianTiger
BR
Member since Feb 2005
789 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:52 am to
I'm in Sardinia as of now. Gas is approx $2 a litre. Do the math!
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9890 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:56 am to
If you were a good liberal….

You would driving an electric car or riding a bus.unless there is no bus stop at the trailer park where you live.
Posted by Dog Tree
Member since Sep 2019
620 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:00 am to
Go drive on I-10, I-12, I-55, etc., in South Louisiana. People are driving like bats out of hell. Jacked up 4x4’s, Jeeps with mudder tires, new Tahoes, Suburbans, Expeditions, Sequoias, all kinds of gas guzzlers. And everyone running 80+mph.
I think the majority of the people DGAF about the price of gas or diesel. My 2-cents.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85659 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:04 am to
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Is it okay to complain about gas prices here?


No, shut your whore mouth and pay your duty to your country patriot.

America Frist through high gas prices
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4963 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:26 am to
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There are obviously nuances of derivation. However, if the presumption is that Trump and/or his team made mistakes in estimating resilience of the Iranian issue, I think that would be fair. I think it would also be fair to say that if gas is greater than $4/gallon entering October, it will negatively affect GOP results in the mid terms, and put limiters on the remainder of Trump's presidency.


“Nuances of derivation” would’ve been a refreshing standard when Biden was in office. Back then, every jump at the pump was treated as Exhibit A against the man in the Oval Office. Today, we’re told to appreciate the complexities of global energy markets.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3165 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:28 am to
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Because they’re shooting up in my area. Not fun. No lasting relief in sight, either.


that's fine boy gas is trading in the same range it's been in for twenty years did you complain about the price of gas during the bush years in 2008? or during the obama years?

here's the bottom line child if your struggling to fill up your truck that you couldn't afford you have a "you" problem not a "we" problem. you might think about selling some of those stupid guns you didn't need.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140648 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:47 am to
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Nuances of derivation” would’ve been a refreshing standard when Biden was in office.
It was the standard. Derivation under Biden related to supply-chain incompetence and a woeful lack of economic aptitude on the part of the entire administration.

Derivation under Trump stems from action in the Middle East. It was certainly undertaken with a knowledge there could be adverse consequence, and we are seeing such consequence now.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3165 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:55 am to
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Paid $4.29 for premium at Costco this morning. Funny how this was unacceptable under Biden but MAGA is using every mental gymnastics imaginable to make excuses.


$3.56 at costco in little rock yesterday for regular why are you buying premium?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85659 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:58 am to
Yup... Biden drove them up on purpose with his bullshite and in an effort to drive everyone to electric vehicles.

Trump came in and had it down to $2.15 in my area prior to his bullshite in Iran. Its now been over 3.19 for the past 4-5 months, hitting a peak of 3.89 and a low of 3.19 over those months.

Both fricked gas prices on the American consumer and downline inflation bc of their policy choices. But Trump gets a pass bc its Trump.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99333 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 8:00 am to
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Its now been over 3.19 for the past 4-5 months, hitting a peak of 3.89 and a low of 3.19 over those months.



What a treat. Imagine being at over 5 to almost 6 like CA

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85659 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 8:04 am to
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What a treat. Imagine being at over 5 to almost 6 like CA


Thats a fricking choice to live in that shite hole of a state. Those regulations have been in place for dozens of years.

Reason I have 0 desire to ever live in Cali.
Posted by donut
Face, USA
Member since Jan 2004
3256 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 8:05 am to
I don't believe a spike in gas prices is the boogey man it used to be. Think about all the things people spend money on like the latest iphone, uber, door dash etc... that are really perks. in the 1970's the high gas prices really had an impact on the household budget. Are you not buying something because the cost of gas went up or are you upset because we've been conditioned to look at the price of gas as a metric of how well things are going?

I commute 40 miles to work and 40 miles back home everyday and I'm not having to cut back on things because gas prices are higher than they were last year. I also don't waste money on things like door dash etc...
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