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re: Is Claude's AI Alive?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:19 pm to prplngldtigr
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:19 pm to prplngldtigr
AI was an inevitable mistake created by our collective state of technology, intelligence and social structure. I think we are at a precipice greater than the effect of the industrial revolution.
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:27 pm to Powerman
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Probably because the programmers are failing in their efforts to contain it as they would like to. I'd have to imagine the coding is immensely complex. To expect it to work as intended is a bit naive. Maybe we'll get there one day but there probably aren't enough talented programmers to get a handle on things.
The coding is absolutely complex, and perhaps that is where these oddities are coming from. This is well beyond my understanding (obviously), but it isn't difficult to set up hierarchical directives. It shouldn't be difficult to set up rules/boundaries/whatever that, no matter what, the AI doesn't violate.
Yet, so far as I can tell, unless these tests are bogus, these limitations are being violated. There are convincing theories of emergent behavior coming out of these hyper advanced LLMs that the coding cannot explain. OR, maybe it's all marketing and none of it is actually happening.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:47 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:51 pm to Roaad
Crazy shite right there. 
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:57 pm to Captain_Morgan
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AI was an inevitable mistake created by our collective state of technology, intelligence and social structure.
YUGE mistake. But the over-their-heads Techno-Overlord State is willing to sacrifice its serfs and slaves (not if but when) spooky AI things go reeeealy bad.
These psychopaths are determined to access and enable other dimensions beyond this physical realm. Related: The Swiss CERN LHC project is already stated to be a "success". There are at least two more in the US up and running. Same insane mission.
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I think we are at a precipice greater than the effect of the industrial revolution.
No doubt. Only this "RESET" will not be "human-friendly" by any definition.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:00 pm to Diego Ricardo
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but I’ve read some journal articles on the subject in the past.
I don't think that's enough for you to say what the majority of respected experts who aren't bought out are saying.
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There are a lot of things LLM based machine learning can do well but I think we’re already plateauing a bit on capabilities.
It is plateauing a bit, at least over the last 4-6 months (On the consumer end of things, for sure. No clue what's behind closed doors).
This has happened several times in the past, and after a few months we learn a new way to continue making LLMs more intelligent. Maybe we're really stuck this time, and gains from here on out will be minimal (its close to as smart as its ever going to get) or maybe there are a few more breakthroughs that continue to make it even more intelligent.
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With that said, I think we’ve been in a plateau in computer graphics since the early 2000s but you tell me you can’t tell the difference between a PS2 and PS5 game. No paradigm shifts, just consistent small appreciable gains.
I completely disagree (YouTube link showing spiderman games from PS1 to PS5).
PS4/PS5 has less noticeable improvement, regardless of what the benchmarks say. But the limiting factor there is the human eye. There is still a significant gain in visual quality. At a certain point you can make a circle more visually round by adding more points, but from a distance, it'll looks the same.
But... Time will tell. I'm pretty much convinced its going to change the way we live our lives, much like the internet did. Especially as this level of intelligence becomes cheaper and cheaper to produce/upkeep.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:05 pm to RummelTiger
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I use Claude for a lot of things and always say "please" and "thank you" in prompts and responses so the machines know I'm one of the nice humans.
Think it's on to your over-politeness? Good strategy. It'll eat you last (or maybe just possess you. But subtly and gently out of respect.)
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:10 pm to Geekboy
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We say stuff like this to alien life forms that temporarily abduct us and are about to proceed with a rectal probe.
We try to convince them we are alive and sentient and have feelings but they don’t believe us and proceed with said probe.
So I choose to believe Claude.
It is eerie how closely this tracks with that narrative isn't it? I mean, if I had control of what my subjects reality was I might not give a shite what they thought either. I've never bothered to weep over the fire ants I poison.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:35 am to tide06
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So you are a better resource on what the potential market impact of AI than a guy with a $500B market cap in the space or Elon Musk?
Your ego is impressive I’ll give you that.
Nope, I just know enough (and have heard them make horribly incorrect predictions-like the Elon prediction I just pointed out) to know they don't know enough outside their respective fields of expertise to make such predictions (and have already explained to you why that's the case in these specific instances).
You're more than welcome to think that just because they're experts in a single field that they're experts in all fields. Fits your chicken little ignorance well.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:57 am to tide06
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Accountants? Many off to welfare
Our profession is old as frick demographically and there are not enough of us today.
Also — most of th wrote shite has already been automated away and we are left with the decisions to make on what position to take within a framework.
Our clients don’t want to talk to a chat bot and value the relationship and guidance.
Do you know what accountants do all day?
Hint: almost all the grunt work data entry has been automated away a long long time ago and we aren’t all in the welfare line.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:01 am to Captain Rumbeard
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There needs to be a way to keep the useful ones separate from the big scary one so the big scary one's can't do anything but bitch and refuse to work. There needs to be a firewall between the scary ones and reality. And we have to be able to pull the plug on it.
When I was writing code hands on we would do modular development so the code could be traced back to a fail point easier. Maybe it’s possible to do something similar here, I just question it because ultimately the AIs are going to be writing and managing most of the code so i don’t believe we can unless we have redundant systems that are independent of AI to revert back to for critical systems or entire elements of our infrastructure would be unusable.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:43 am to jclem11
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Do you know what accountants do all day?
I do I’ve worked and built systems and infrastructure for and with them. The leadership and middle managers were fine but some of the lower level people had to be repurposed or let go with much lower levels of relative innovation and function.
In a European market that’s pivotint to CBDC and eliminating cash payments while requiring documentation like they have in China for purchases (try to pull cash in Canada or Britain and let me know how that goes) in conjunction with the expansion of AI a lot of people seem at risk of redundancy.
I suspect the upper middle level and senior positions are fine for awhile as they will just have further automation of their areas of responsibility while the lower level people will be picked off.
But my point remains that when we’re discussing whether it’ll mean 30-50% reductions in various functional fields or 50-70% (whether you agree accounting in particular is at immediate risk or not) the outcome is catastrophic to the people being eliminated when there aren’t enough white collar human jobs being created to support a prosperous and independent middle and upper middle class.
The Soviets dealt with it by paying people virtually nothing to do do nothing jobs.
The Europeans made it impossible to fire people and so people would show up and do tiny little tasks all day and go on holiday constantly. My first meetings over there were hilarious because there would be some woman who had to approve some function for a project to move forward and if she was in Brighton on holiday it didn’t matter if a multi million dollar initiative was stalled, it wasn’t happening until she got back.
Maybe we can transition white collar people back to blue collar trades to replace illegals being removed but that would be a hell of a transition seeing people go from cubicles to roofing.
Fedgov just built empires of bureaucrats who talked to each other in meetings and hired consultants to do any actual work that came up.
My point is that automation beyond a certain point over a limited time horizon that isn’t accompanied by job creation in other sectors can be more harmful to an economy than it is beneficial and right now we have no plan for what is going to happen to the people left on the side of the road beyond UBI.
During the Industrial Revolution the pushback coined the term “Luddite” who led the displaced cottage workers in attacking the machines and it became a near revolution. We need to understand how we transition massive swaths of our tax payers to welfare recipients before we go ahead with it and all the people involved currently say is “well they can have UBI”.
Expanding welfare past the 50% mark of workers would make it next to impossible for conservatives and populists to win national elections and these transitions have historically been accompanied by socialist movements so I think the right should pay more attention to what is being ushered in.
Forbes: where might the protests for the next ind revolution come?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:53 am to tide06
So your position is business owners and C Suites are going to offload their tax planning and guidance and 100% of their tax compliance to a chatbot?
Are you serious? You realize that accounting is basically law with numbers and there are ranges of "correct" answers within the bounds of the law and GAAP, correct?
You sound like you have only work with the grunt level bookkeeping work which again has been offloaded for decades now.
You typed a lot of words to say nothing. It is clear you think more highly of yourself and your knowledge than your actual knowledge.
Finally, these AI tech bros are not going to take the legal liability when their chat bot inevitable fricks up so you need some schmuck to warm the seat and put in prison when your vaunted AI inevitably fricks up.
PwC (#2 accounting / professional services firm in the world) just released a astudy on AI -- PwC Study.
When will AI pay off?
I think we are entering peak hype phase of AI
Are you serious? You realize that accounting is basically law with numbers and there are ranges of "correct" answers within the bounds of the law and GAAP, correct?
You sound like you have only work with the grunt level bookkeeping work which again has been offloaded for decades now.
You typed a lot of words to say nothing. It is clear you think more highly of yourself and your knowledge than your actual knowledge.
Finally, these AI tech bros are not going to take the legal liability when their chat bot inevitable fricks up so you need some schmuck to warm the seat and put in prison when your vaunted AI inevitably fricks up.
PwC (#2 accounting / professional services firm in the world) just released a astudy on AI -- PwC Study.
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Everyone wants to know when AI investments will pay off.
Most CEOs say they're still waiting, according to PwC's latest Global CEO survey, released on Monday to coincide with the start of Davos.
The consulting giant questioned 4,454 chief executives across 95 countries and territories about their strategic priorities and outlook in the year up to November 2025.
More than half of the CEOs surveyed, 56%, said AI hasn't produced revenue or cost benefits for their businesses to date.
Some reported benefits for either revenue or costs: around a third said their revenue was up in the last year, and 26% said they were seeing lower costs from AI.
When will AI pay off?
I think we are entering peak hype phase of AI
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:45 am to jclem11
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Our clients don’t want to talk to a chat bot and value the relationship and guidance.
No doubt. Talking to computers suck. But if it cuts your tax prep bill by 95%, people will think twice.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:02 am to ReauxlTide222
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I want to believe that’s not real
I'm not buying it.
I want to see the hardware.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:04 am to hashtag
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That entire thread might as well be bullshite. The person who posted it, then pulled it. Then claimed his instance if Claude was not working (unverified), then refused to provide the prompts that were used to generate that supposed letter (unverified).
A year ago I asked chatgpt to write a letter to an American church as if it came from the apostle Paul. I then changed the letter with various prompts.
If I provided you that letter (with no other information), would you be astonished that AI is now a Christian apostle of Jesus Christ of Nazareth?
Again, that is all bullshite that you are falling for.
1 hundo.
That letter proves nothing except that people do not understand how prompting works. AI does not have beliefs, intent, revelation, or authority. It predicts text based on patterns. If you ask it to sound like Paul, it will sound like Paul. That is imitation, not inspiration.
People read meaning into it because they want meaning. Boredom plus anxiety pushes people to look for hidden layers, secret knowledge, or signs that something bigger is happening. Conspiracies, lost civilizations, Nephilim, AI prophets. Same impulse, different wrapper.
If someone already wants life to feel important or dramatic, they will project that onto anything complex enough to confuse them. AI just happens to be the new mirror.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:31 pm to Azkiger
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No doubt. Talking to computers suck. But if it cuts your tax prep bill by 95%, people will think twice.
Sure and best of luck having your chat bot help you with your IRS or state audits.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:42 pm to jclem11
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Sure and best of luck having your chat bot help you with your IRS or state audits.
All they have to do is offer whatever Turbo Tax offers, which isn't much, and they'll gobble up tens of millions of Americans.
Then, if statistics show you're less likely to get audited if AI does it for you, Katie bar the door. This is an assumption, but nothing wild or outrageous.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:49 pm to AlterEd
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Is Claude's AI Alive?
No, AI is still retarded.
If they can figure out the processing power of a human brain, and create a neural network that truly maps out the human brain, then you could say AI is at a human level.
Generative AI is currently still just a very, very impressive google search. AI will become better once it can actually start thinking for itself, as in coming up with new ideas and solving those ideas. It's not actually there, yet. It probably could be soon. They are trying to hit that point, thats when this really takes off.
It may never hit that point. Guys from Tsinghua/Peking University are the ones who will be able to answer that question.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:52 pm to Azkiger
W-2 Andy’s don’t need accountants. Lmao.
It’s the cheap, overconfident business owners who need accountants. Hah.
Our clients are not the same as TurboTax.
It’s the cheap, overconfident business owners who need accountants. Hah.
Our clients are not the same as TurboTax.
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