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re: Is anyone else laughing about this "red line" media creation?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:43 am to a want
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:43 am to a want
Can you rank whom is responsible for the norks having nukes and our current nork situation?
Blowjob bill. The Bush bros. Odumbo the clown. And the orange menace.
Let's see if you can be honest with yourself and with us.
Blowjob bill. The Bush bros. Odumbo the clown. And the orange menace.
Let's see if you can be honest with yourself and with us.
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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one GOP commentator said that Trump didn't use the word "red line" and the CNN commentator is like "obviously he didn't use the term 'red line" and i'm over here like, "Obama literally used the term 'red line"
The level of dissonance is striking yet unsurprising.Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
I think he put down a red line, but I also think it's hilarious people are cool with a crazy nut job constantly threatening us with nuclear capabilities. I get it was funny when they didn't actually have nukes, but somehow it's less funny when they do.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:46 am to a want
yes
especially since Trump hasn't even been given a chance to make the comparison they're trying to make (Obama's red line fiasco in Syria is OK because Trump did the same thing with NK).
the primary question is, if they're not trying to compare Trump to Obama, why even use the term associated with Obama?
then, the follow up: since they're trying to hard to compare Trump to Obama in dissimilar situations, what is the purpose?
especially since Trump hasn't even been given a chance to make the comparison they're trying to make (Obama's red line fiasco in Syria is OK because Trump did the same thing with NK).
the primary question is, if they're not trying to compare Trump to Obama, why even use the term associated with Obama?
then, the follow up: since they're trying to hard to compare Trump to Obama in dissimilar situations, what is the purpose?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:49 am to Taxing Authority
i can't wait for teh N-word to show up
not the racial one...nuance
not the racial one...nuance
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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the primary question is, if they're not trying to compare Trump to Obama, why even use the term associated with Obama?
Trump said Obama was an idiot for drawing the red line in the first place. Now he's done essentially the same thing.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is true.
what they really fear is Trump having a "Cuban Missile Crisis" moment where he pulls off the biggest diplomatic victory since WWII
Under no situation can they allow Trump to have a diplomatic victory.
The progressives would take absolute destruction of SK over Trump being victorious, IMO.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:52 am to a want
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Trump said Obama was an idiot for drawing the red line in the first place. Now he's done essentially the same thing.
Wrong
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"I'm not somebody who will stand by and let him get away with what he's tried to do, and he did it a number of times," said Trump.
"When Obama drew that red line in the sand, he should have crossed that red line because some horrible acts against humanity took place including gas, and the killing through gasses," said Trump of Obama's 2013 "red line," where the former president responded to reports that Assad had used chemical weapons by saying he would meet further chemical weapons use with force.
Trump didn't say the "red line" was stupid. he said Obama not following up on it was stupid
at least you're honest that this is just a liberal-media talking point and it has no real substance
however, even if i say "ok the media is being honest", they literally haven't even given Trump a chance to respond to his "red line", so the criticisms are premature. again, why are they jumping the gun? will you even admit the media outlets who are being premature are being completely partisan? can you admit that little?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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not the racial one...nuance
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
at this whole thread. you guys would argue with a fence post.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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they're trying SO HARD to make this look like Obama's actual "red line"
Saying that if you threaten us again we're going to unleash power never seen in this world is, by definition, a red line.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:55 am to Scruffy
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Under no situation can they allow Trump to have a diplomatic victory.
The progressives would take absolute destruction of SK over Trump being victorious, IMO.
i think the sanctions fricked them up with a major follow up blow being SK's 180
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:56 am to Scruffy
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The progressives would take absolute destruction of SK over Trump being victorious, IMO.
You are batshit crazy
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
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aying that if you threaten us again we're going to unleash power never seen in this world is, by definition, a red line.
or just a regular old threat
why use the term so associated with Obama and Obama alone? why is it so important for the media to use it?
even a want admitted there is partisanship involved
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 11:57 am
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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why use the term so associated with Obama and Obama alone?
Because turnabout is fair play. That y'all bashed Obama yet give Trump a pass is classic right wing hypocrisy at its finest and needs to be highlighted.
hell giving him a pass is too nice, many are outright cheering a dangerous and irresponsible course of action
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:01 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Because turnabout is fair play.
so it's partisan
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That y'all bashed Obama yet give Trump a pass is classic right wing hypocrisy at its finest and needs to be highlighted.
even assuming "red line" is appropriate, Trump hasn't even been given a chance to pull an Obama
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so it's partisan
And completely appropriate
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Trump hasn't even been given a chance to pull an Obama
Unless we nuke them over the Guam comments then he already has
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Not even close to the specificity of Obama's "red line".
Saying that if you threaten us again we're going to unleash power never seen in this world is, by definition, a red line.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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US gets China to exert force on NK to end its nuclear/missile programs. that's the dream scenario
That's a pipe dream bro, if it was viable it would have already happened.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
And all this is without even getting into how incredibly stupid it is to make comments like that towards a regime that is isolated, paranoid, and scared
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