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re: Is American slavery the most important historical period for Blacks?

Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 3:58 pm to
what about all the other races that had slaves before whitey?

what about all the other races who have slaves now?

blacks have been a victim unto themselves.

if whitey is evil because of slavery, then other races are more so.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:00 pm to
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what about all the other races that had slaves before whitey?


They were equally as wrong as well.

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what about all the other races who have slaves now?


As I have said, find me a poster here that has shite more on Dubai and Qatar. Race is irrelevant to me.

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blacks have been a victim unto themselves.


Why look at this through a racial lens though? That’s what I don’t understand. I hold everyone up to the same standard.

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if whitey is evil because of slavery, then other races are more so.


This is just the mind of a racist that can’t understand the point of view of a nonracist.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19618 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:01 pm to
My dad once told me that he shoulda married this other woman instead of my mom. I told him if he did, I wouldn't exist. (My mom said the same about him as well, lol).

It's the same with black Americans today. They can sit around and lament slavery, but how many of them realize that without it they wouldn't exist?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31581 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:04 pm to
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There were plenty of dirt poor whites and no minimum wage. You have to wonder what this country would look like now had the colonies not imported labor and allowed their profit margins to take a relatively minor hit by paying poor white folks pennies, shitty housing and three bad meals a day.


That actually did happen, and it was cheaper to pay the whites. Slavery was on it's way out by itself, dying a natural death.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:05 pm to
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My dad once told me that he shoulda married this other woman instead of my mom. I told him if he did, I wouldn't exist. (My mom said the same about him as well, lol).

It's the same with black Americans today. They can sit around and lament slavery, but how many of them realize that without it they wouldn't exist?


But that can be used for everything. Let’s say your great grandfather was a radical klansman that lynched a dozen or so people. Any action he ever takes differently will mean he’s fricking your great grandmother in a different way, which would lead to a different sperm fertilizing the egg that eventually became your grandfather. The butterfly effect is much more pronounced than the average person thinks. You can’t justify any of it just because an atrocity led to your birth.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14712 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:28 pm to
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If your wife were repeatedly raped and those kids were sold off and there was nothing you could do about it would you call it a gift?

What about your daughter getting raped and scourged? Still a gift?




BS! How many fathers even know their children or children who know their dads today?
Sure there are those who take responsibility and love for their family. But the democrats call those "Uncle Toms."
I worked with this guy a few years ago who had deserted his family. I asked him about his life choices and he ridiculed me for being responsible. He said, "I'm going to have some fun". I told him while you are having fun me and other like minded people are taking care of your wife and kids.
I'm sure he was concerned if some else was abusing his kids. Hell he never even visited them.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20276 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:30 pm to
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gloating about how great life is for modern day blacks


Who is gloating? The question was are blacks in a better spot today due to the sacrifice of their ancestors. Again, you answered yes they are and I agree.

It’s not an immoral question. All people deal with the hand they were dealt by the prior generations. Blacks today have never had a brighter future with more opportunity than they do in the USA right now.
Posted by Ray Corona
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2019
119 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Why look at this through a racial lens though?


Because black peoples across the World perfected the slave trade and are still practicing it today in 2019 long after it has disappeared from America.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:35 pm to
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BS! How many fathers even know their children or children who know their dads today?


I hope most.

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I worked with this guy a few years ago who had deserted his family. I asked him about his life choices and he ridiculed me for being responsible. He said, "I'm going to have some fun". I told him while you are having fun me and other like minded people are taking care of your wife and kids.


Well when I’m in charge, these Johnny Appleseeds will be put down.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:38 pm to
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Who is gloating? The question was are blacks in a better spot today due to the sacrifice of their ancestors. Again, you answered yes they are and I agree.


But this is true for everyone. We’re better off as a modern society that Alexander took over the world. We’re better off because Julius Caesar massacred the Gauls. We’re better off because Genghis Khan opened up trade routes. But what about the other timelines where those atrocities don’t happen? Whose to say the directions they would have taken?
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4474 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:43 pm to
You have a point. I for one wish the Africans never sold slaves to the States. The better question is how would it have affected our sports today?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 4:44 pm to
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I’m aware, but it’s pretty fricking hypocritical from a society that claimed to be the Land of the Free.


Well, those lyrics were penned in 1814 or so and the first slaves were brought to the New World around 300 years earlier, so your argument is rather flawed IMHO.

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I’d be surprised if there’s a poster on this site that has shite over Dubai and Qatar more than me.


Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:02 pm to
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Well, those lyrics were penned in 1814


All Men Are Created Equal, so it was pure hypocrisy.

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the first slaves were brought to the New World around 300 years earlier, so your argument is rather flawed IMHO.


Could have banned it in the Declaration of Independence.

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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?


I think it is disgusting that we do trade with slave owners and should cut them off. It’s why I’m very much for investing in alternate energy to starve them off.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:43 pm to
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If your wife were repeatedly raped and those kids were sold off and there was nothing you could do about it would you call it a gift?

What about your daughter getting raped and scourged? Still a gift?
that happen to anyone in the last 160 years? Considering the other options were being killed back in Africa by the tribe you lost to or being worked to death in 4 months in a Brazilian mine or a Caribbean sugar plantation, the situation you describe was probably preferable
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:46 pm to
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the black race


No such thing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:57 pm to
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the black race


No such thing.




Posted by oblio
Southern Command Post
Member since Oct 2008
360 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:04 pm to
A couple of years of work and 150 years of sitting on the porch drinking beer with a government check. This game is played out.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:07 pm to
Great Danes are dogs. So are terriers.

Figure it out.

Race is a social construct.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49974 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 11:07 pm to
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Is American slavery the most important historical period for Blacks?


Yes. Followed closely by the birth of Dr. James Naismith.
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