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re: Is affordable housing a right in Capitalist America?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:54 am to The Maj
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:54 am to The Maj
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Everyone should NOT own a home...
unregulated capitalism in the late 90s and 00s caused the housing crisis telling people exactly that.
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Everyone should NOT go to college...
while I agree, we see more capitalists creating the industry that you describe
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Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:55 am to Salmon
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quote:No.
Is affordable housing a right in Capitalist America?quote:No.
so, (Libertarians) do we continue to raise taxes to help people afford a roof over their head?quote:No.
should our government also require minimum wage to increase??quote:Not more government.
How do we carry on?
This thread was nuked on the first post
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:00 am to joeyb147
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because the US doesn't spend enough on education?
That chart should look more like the military spending chart
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:05 am to bmy
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That chart should look more like the military spending chart
It does you fool, we spend more than any other country there too.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:07 am to jptiger2009
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unregulated capitalism in the late 90s and 00s caused the housing crisis telling people exactly that.
Bullshite... The government created this myth and even loosened regulations to allow for it...
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we see more capitalists creating the industry that you describe
Again, bullshite, the government created the idea that everyone should go to college...
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:09 am to The Maj
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Again, bullshitee, the government created the idea that everyone should go to college...
Pel Grants and guaranteed student loans have done more to increase the cost of college than any other thing. FACT, one that liberals hate, one of many facts they hate actually.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:09 am to beerJeep
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When you incentivize laziness and complacency, you get what we have today.
while I agree that our welfare system is largely to blame for the horrible lives we live, it is not the entire problem.
We also have people like you who want to make it harder to come out of poverty. you are "quite literally" Russian. your way of thinking is absolutely perfect for over there.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:12 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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It does you fool, we spend more than any other country there too.
$$$AMERICAN CAPITALISM$$$
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:15 am to jptiger2009
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so, (Libertarians) do we continue to raise taxes to help people afford a roof over their head?
Reduce regulations
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:16 am to jptiger2009
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while I agree that our welfare system is largely to blame for the horrible lives we live, it is not the entire problem.
We also have people like you who want to make it harder to come out of poverty. you are "quite literally" Russian. your way of thinking is absolutely perfect for over there.
That dude is an idiot but it can't be argued that our system stupidly incentivizes poor decisions.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:16 am to jptiger2009
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unregulated capitalism in the late 90s and 00s caused the housing crisis telling people exactly that.
You're such a simpleton.
We've been through this before with you. You don't understand free markets or capitalism.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:19 am to jptiger2009
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We also have people like you who want to make it harder to come out of poverty
Free markets.
That's how people escape poverty.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:19 am to bmy
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A significant part of that is due to airbnb and foreign investors. Wages tend to lag behind.
I wonder how much effect the airbnb phenomenon has had on affordable rent in urban areas. I talked with a realtor a while back about the NOLA market particularly all of the apartment/condos continually being built in the city and he said that what is happening overall is the same thing that happens in beach towns with condo rental but now it's spreading to major urban areas.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:24 am to KiwiHead
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I wonder how much effect the airbnb phenomenon has had on affordable rent in urban areas
Huge impact in some areas. Foreign investors or people who live outside the particular city
I see that here and it's had a profound affect on real estate prices and rent.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
you just don't like me distinguishing between the 2. Capitalism, in its purist form, is completley unregulated.
That's how you get monopolies among other atrocities like it.
A regulated capitalism is what our free market economy operates with.
all you anti-govt folks are asking for a world of hurt, especially to those beneath you. then again, that's probably what you want.
That's how you get monopolies among other atrocities like it.
A regulated capitalism is what our free market economy operates with.
all you anti-govt folks are asking for a world of hurt, especially to those beneath you. then again, that's probably what you want.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:49 am to Salmon
Take away affordable housing and people that have jobs living in affordable housing would be better off quitting their jobs and live off the government in other ways.
It is a lose lose situation. The problem is people in affordable housing don’t move out when they have the means.
Affordable housing for people on SSN is different than people living in affordable housing that can move out once they have jobs and can quit living off the government. That is the problem.
My dad has 2 renters that work for cash. The wife cleans houses and the husband works as a carpenter. They probably make over $30,000 a year in a town where rent averages around $400 a month and the government still pays their rent.
Affordable housing is a broke system. Fixing it would be almost impossible, but you can’t just get rid of it for the people who really need it.
It is a lose lose situation. The problem is people in affordable housing don’t move out when they have the means.
Affordable housing for people on SSN is different than people living in affordable housing that can move out once they have jobs and can quit living off the government. That is the problem.
My dad has 2 renters that work for cash. The wife cleans houses and the husband works as a carpenter. They probably make over $30,000 a year in a town where rent averages around $400 a month and the government still pays their rent.
Affordable housing is a broke system. Fixing it would be almost impossible, but you can’t just get rid of it for the people who really need it.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:54 am to jptiger2009
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o have people like you who want to make it harder to come out of poverty
Know what is one of the leading indicators of poverty? Having kids at a young age and out of wedlock.
Know what would make it exponentially easier for the poor to get out of poverty? Sterilize them to where they can’t make that MILLION DOLLAR mistake of having a child they can’t afford.
If someone is on welfare, they can’t provide for themselves. That’s why they need assistance. If they can’t take care of themselves without assistance, why on God’s earth do we let them have children they can’t afford? And not only allow them, but we give incentives for them to have children.
Prevent them from having kids, they are able to accumulate wealth and get out of poverty. Then, once they obtain a stable life, they can ADOPT one of the MILLIONS of children in adoption facilities across the globe.
It’s a win for them because they get out of poverty.
It’s a win for us, because we aren’t paying for generational welfare and baby factories.
It’s a win for the adopted children because they get out of the adoption house and into a loving and caring and SUCCESSFUL family.
But hey. That’s apparently Russian
It’s amazing what you can accomplish if you use logic and reasoning over emotions.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:55 am to jptiger2009
Of course. If you can’t afford living in a certain town, you have the right to move somewhere else that you can afford. You also have the right to acquire the skills necessary to get a higher paying job.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:55 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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It does you fool, we spend more than any other country there too.
But not to the same extent that we do with military spending
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:56 am to jptiger2009
No. In a truly free market, an enterprising individual would make good money catering to low income.
They do now, but they're government dependent getting section 8 money.
They do now, but they're government dependent getting section 8 money.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:58 am
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