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Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:58 pm to L.A.
I've talked to some liberals who said they would gladly trade in roe vs wade in exchange for overturning citizens united.
It varies.
It varies.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:00 am to L.A.
Um, I'm pretty certain it's way more important to those on the right. 
Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:43 am to JuiceTerry
quote:I think it may seem that way to you because the law is on the side of the left on this issue.
I'm pretty certain it's way more important to those on the right.
To understand my question in the OP, imagine the law were reversed. Would abortion be a bigger issue to those on the left or those on the right? That may have been a better way to pose my question.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 4:06 am to L.A.
I think the number of people who are passionate about it are about even on both sides, with a very uneven geographic distribution.
It's not even in my top ten issues. I'm intellectually pro choice, and I'm pro choice because it pisses off the fundies. But it doesn't affect me directly like a lot of other issues do.
It's not even in my top ten issues. I'm intellectually pro choice, and I'm pro choice because it pisses off the fundies. But it doesn't affect me directly like a lot of other issues do.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 4:10 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 4:19 am to Jim Rockford
quote:Yet you oppose the death penalty. I just don't get some people. I really don't.
I'm intellectually pro choice,
Posted on 5/23/14 at 5:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Any explanation I would offer would likely not satisfy you. By the same token, the anti-abortion, pro death penalty people are a mystery to me, their rationalizations notwithstanding.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:02 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:If you thought about it from their perspective you would probably get it. But it's a lot easier when you only look from your perspective, isn't it?
Yet you oppose the death penalty. I just don't get some people. I really don't.
Even if you disagree with their perspective, it's important to permit yourself to step into it long enough to rationalize how your opponents think. Until you really understand them, you can't effectively argue against them.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 6:03 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:21 am to Hog on the Hill
I support a woman's right to choose 100% but I think the assault on voting rights is just as important. I gave up on meaningful gun control or Universal health Care.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:25 am to Roger Klarvin
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In their defense, if you genuinely believe a baby is being murdered are you not obligated to place a heavy emphasis on that issue?
Absolutely, and it was not a criticism of them for it being their #1 issue.
Though I lean left on most everything else, I'm actually against abortion. It's just not something that's very high on my list of important issues.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:46 am to L.A.
Let's be real about this: the GOP/right wing folks (for the most part) want to get rid of abortion under any circumstances, but when these kids are born, it's "you're on your own".
It makes no logical sense. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
It makes no logical sense. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:25 am to L.A.
for the left and religious right.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:26 am to L.A.
I am sure many here would like to believe that it is.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:28 am to L.A.
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Is abortion the single most important political issue to those on the left?
No, and this is from someone who knows quite a few liberals.
quote:
If it's not the most important issue to you, what is?
I used to be a liberal (and I still lean left on some things), but at the time, I was pretty big into pro-government intervention/regulation into the economy. Even gay rights (and certainly abortion) wasn't that concerning to me at the time.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:29 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
. I gave up on meaningful gun control or Universal health Care.
You did?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:32 am to Hawkeye95
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reduce defense spending
Still doesn't account for a larger chunk of our budget than Social
Security.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:20 am to Cole Beer
quote:I don't even know what that means. Why, in your opinion, are people on the right less interested in the welfare of children than people on the left?
Let's be real about this: the GOP/right wing folks (for the most part) want to get rid of abortion under any circumstances, but when these kids are born, it's "you're on your own".
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:32 am to L.A.
quote:
Just speaking from personal experience
no offense, but your personal experience (along with MANY on this board) needs to expand immensely.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:47 am to Mr. Katanga
quote:I'll bet you 5 million dollars that my personal experience is broader than yours. How many countries have you lived in? How many states? How many languages do you speak? Let's start there.
no offense, but your personal experience (along with MANY on this board) needs to expand immensely.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:54 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
i oppose the death penalty soley on the reason that our justice system is very flawed and there are to many death row inmates who are exonerated later.
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