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re: Iran Threatens No More Negotiations Closure of SoH Over Israeli Attacks on Lebanon

Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:09 am to
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:09 am to
KRASSENSTEIN
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:14 am to
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Im pointing out vulnerabilities


Yeah you sure are Patton.

You’ve completely ignored, more than once, having it pointed out to you that Iran got its arse kicked by the US military.

Because you’re too busy pointing out the “vulnerabilities”, legit or otherwise

Are you available to Hegseth for your military risk management skills?

Really surprising you haven’t been scooped up yet. I’m thinking a three star ranking on the way in the door is appropriate here.

A grateful nation thanks you for your service in pointing out its vulnerabilities.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:15 am to
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Yeah you sure are Patton. You’ve completely ignored, more than once, having it pointed out to you that Iran got its arse kicked by the US military. Because you’re too busy pointing out the “vulnerabilities”, legit or otherwise Are you available to Hegseth for your military risk management skills? Really surprising you haven’t been scooped up yet. I’m thinking a three star ranking on the way in the door is appropriate here. A grateful nation thanks you for your service in pointing out its vulnerabilities.

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Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:17 am to
I wish just one of you people would actually make the effort to articulate how it is that Israel could control the USA. They are tiny. If we wanted to do something that Israel didn't want us to do, or didn't want to do what they want us to do, what power do they have to do anything about it?

Clearly, there is a shared interest. You can disagree with that interest, but you can't make a logical argument that we were strong armed into something we didn't want to do.

I don't know how all of this is going to play out, but I suspect this "deal" was just to shut up all the sky screamers, while putting Iran in a position where they either keep their word, or they prove that Trump was right that they (the regime) need to be eliminated completely. And of course, Iran will never keep their word. Their proxies fire on Israel, then Israel retaliates, and Israel gets blamed. Meanwhile, Jew haters take the word of the terrorists.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 12:19 am
Posted by TigerTiger12914
TEXAS
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:18 am to
You got it backwards. Which Ivy league school is your government paying for? And which Democrat Senator is sponsoring you?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9486 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:27 am to
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You’ve completely ignored, more than once, having it pointed out to you that Iran got its arse kicked by the US military


Because it wasnt relevant. We did a lot of damage. Not enough to allow our forces to escort ships safely or insure the safety of the other gulf states. It would take more force than we were willing to apply to accomplish that goal militarily We thought a decapitation attack would work. It did not.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 12:29 am
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:29 am to
Explain how I have it backwards.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:39 am to
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can disagree with that interest, but you can't make a logical argument that we were strong armed into something we didn't want to do.


In the opening days of.rhe war Rubio said the U.S. was aware of an impending Israeli strike. He stated that because this Israeli action would likely trigger immediate Iranian retaliation against American forces, the U.S. chose to preemptively strike first to avoid higher U.S. casualties. He then walked that back Some lean on his first statements as arguemnt points that our hand was "forced". Thats about as close to an argument Ive heard that makes any sense and isnt just Anti Israel conspiracy.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2237 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:42 am to
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Because it wasnt relevant. We did a lot of damage. Not enough to allow our forces to escort ships safely or insure the safety of the other gulf states. It would take more force than we were willing to apply to accomplish that goal militarily We thought a decapitation attack would work. It did not.


Definitely pro US military. It’s the past tense part of your loser talk that really seals the deal in terms of your not rooting against.

Your logic levels are approaching indensefatigue levels. I’ll take my alter AI generated responses and leave you two to agree with each other.

Nighty night Ike.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:43 am to
Didn't you tell us that Iran got everything they want with the MOU, many even one of the clowns that claimed we "lost"?

Why are they complaining?

Why don't they attack something, since we didn't hurt them any?

Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28191 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:44 am to
No, I didn't say anything of the sort, I just said Israel fricked us and you called me a terrorist.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6972 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:47 am to
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n the opening days of.rhe war Rubio said the U.S. was aware of an impending Israeli strike. He stated that because this Israeli action would likely trigger immediate Iranian retaliation against American forces, the U.S. chose to preemptively strike first to avoid higher U.S. casualties. He then walked that back Some lean on his first statements as arguemnt points that our hand was "forced". Thats about as close to an argument Ive heard that makes any sense and isnt just Anti Israel conspiracy.


The US could have withdrawn forces from the area if they were aware of an impending strike and didn't want American casualties. Israel had every right and reason to fire on Iran, and any insinuation that this forced us into a war is just not accurate. It was a choice. A choice I agreed with, but I wish he had just finished the job instead of trying to play political footsie with Iran. We had the means to finish them without even putting boots on the ground.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:49 am to
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but I wish he had just finished the job


Yeah? What's finishing the job entail?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6972 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:50 am to
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Yeah? What's finishing the job entail?


Eliminate the regime completely. What else do you think it entails? They were crippled, and now we're allowing them to regroup.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28191 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:53 am to
We killed the fricking ayatollah, what method would we have used to neutralize the entire blood pool?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6972 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:03 am to
What method? I don't understand your question. We killed more than one Ayatollah, as they just kept promoting the next guy in line. There is no other method. Everything we were already doing was working. You just keep destroying their defenses and taking out all of their leaders, so that the people who are already there and fighting and dying for their freedom can take their country back. But we stopped. I don't know what his plan is, though I speculated earlier as to what it might be. But whatever he's trying to do is going to be much harder than just finishing the job while Iran was on the ropes.

If he doesn't finish this, he wasted everyone's time.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 1:05 am
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
3774 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:08 am to
It's obvious to me he's not talking about US oil reserves, he's talking about the reserves of other countries being impacted by the war. He mentioned he'd be a bad President for allowing other countries and people to suffer.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Member since Sep 2014
28191 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:09 am to
Don't you understand there's always a next guy in line? Trump doesn't have a plan, but you make it sound simple, things are far more complex than you make them out to be. You want to carpet bomb them? Glass the entire country
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6972 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:14 am to
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Don't you understand there's always a next guy in line? Trump doesn't have a plan, but you make it sound simple, things are far more complex than you make them out to be. You want to carpet bomb them? Glass the entire country


Do I understand that? Did I not just say that? But you do realize there are a finite number of them, right? This is not more complex than I make it out to be, it is precisely as complex as it appears. We were dominating them. We don't have to kill every soul in Iran. The Iranian people are not the problem. once you've weakened the regime to the point that they can't fight back, the people can handle any small cells that pop up out of hiding. You seem to forget that thousands of Iranians already died trying to fight the regime before America lifted a finger, but they didn't stand a chance on their own.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:23 am to
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But you do realize there are a finite number of them, right?


There is not. You continually give simple/bullshite solutions for complex problems, these aren't fricking Bedouin poppy farmers in bumfrick Kandahar, they are Persians
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