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re: Iran stops all negotiation with U.S. — Promises to completely block Strait of Hormuz.

Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68947 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:10 pm to
It was badly conceived from the outset, and the execution hasn’t achieved our alleged goals…
The military has performed well, but to what end?
As has been said repeatedly, an air war alone won’t fundamentally change Iran
or end its nuclear ambitions…
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
157 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:27 pm to
Sure we were lied to about WMD's but what unlisted is easily verifiable.

You think the attacks over the past 6 years have been faked as an incredibly slow burn?

You think that the assassination plots starting years ago were fake?

The attacks and assasination plots that haven't even really been mentioned as justification?

Sure. Just let them hit our bases, kill our troops (i didn't even mention the three soldiers killed in Jordan) and let the Houthis run wild in the Red Sea bc we want $2/gallon gas.

You cool with the 46 Americans killed on Oct 7?
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68947 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:30 pm to
This Iran escapade is having virtually zero impact on the events you mention
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
157 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:38 pm to
So your move would be to do what, exactly?
Just let Iran and their proxies do whatever they wish to us?

What action would VOR take?

Tell Iran 24 hours in advance that we were going to retaliate against a specific base like Biden did?

I'm 100% genuinely curious.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16327 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:41 pm to
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Tell Iran 24 hours in advance that we were going to retaliate against a specific base like Biden did?


Trump did the exact thing last year. Lol you idiots know nothing. ??
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
157 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:47 pm to
Got a link?

The only thing I found was the warning Iran gave of the Qatar strikes.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16327 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:52 pm to
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Sure we were lied to about WMD's but what unlisted is easily verifiable.


Actually the WMDs they were talking about was the chemical weapons the US gave to Iraq to use against Iran. The war they talked Iraq into fighting for the US that killed a million. Then bankrupted them over which led to the Kuwait invasion. The west has been fricking with Iran for a long time. They don't teach you this so you remain a stupid brain dead patriot. Little do they know your morals are fake and you're willing to do it for free.

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Iran suffered drastically higher casualties than Iraq primarily due to its reliance on human wave tactics, severe international isolation, domestic military purges, and Iraq's widespread use of chemical weapons
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16327 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:53 pm to
It was the nuclear site, then Iran "retaliated" with a site that was empty. It was an agreement bc neither did nothing.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
157 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:09 pm to
Right.
After Midnight Hammer, Iran "retaliated" by striking a base un Qatar.

And they told us and Qatar in advance.

Teump did not give them advance notice about Midnight Hammer and did not give them advance warnings of any other specific strikes.

The notices Iran and Biden gave made the strikes performative.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9243 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:13 pm to
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We don’t negotiate with terrorists” has been the mantra forever. Knowing that, we’ve been doing it for months.


We negotiate with terrorists. That dumb phrase is fantasy government catchphrase nonsense.

Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16327 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:17 pm to
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Teump did not give them advance notice about Midnight Hammer and did not give them advance warnings


Lol he def did and if you google you can see them bring it trucks then day before to move shite. You have been fooled.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68818 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:17 pm to
Yeah, an ISIS head chopper is running Syria and we hosted him in the White House not long ago.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
157 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:25 pm to
Are you referencing the dual use chemicals?
Sure, I'll play along. We supplied Iraq with WMD's to use against the Iranians. In the 80"s.

All the attacks and deaths of Americans in just the last few years, along with three assasination plots, don't warrant any retaliation, bc of some chemicals supplied decades ago?

Any action by Iran or its proxies we should let slide?
Is that your stance?
Because it sounds like that's your stance.




Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38581 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:26 pm to
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You’re right. Bush wasn’t dumb enough to attack Iran for a week and think all would be solved.

At least Trump was honest with his reasons for doing. Bush knew there were no WMDs but that was his excuse for going in, destroying the country and then rebuilding it.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
157 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:41 pm to
I did see satellite images of the trucks near the sites,

And I know China had a bunch of scientists working at the nuclear sites that hauled arse beforehand.

We could have tipped China off and they could tipped Iran off.maybe. or maybe it was coincidence.

Maybe I've been fooled or maybe you want to believe that bc it fits with some preconceived notion.

I dunno. Hopefully we'll find out one way or another someday.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
81154 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:41 pm to
Damn, wish I'd loaded up on $CF before today's closing bell.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20390 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:48 pm to
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This Iran war has to be the dumbest shite Trump ever signed off on.


Someone has no understanding of geopolitics or long term goals. Immediate result of what I won’t now or it’s not worth it.

Iran is the world’s foremost destabilizer that attempts to kill US troops abroad. They support every anti-American cause and you wanna just be nice to them. You must be a woman.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7648 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 2:33 am to
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Man, I wish Drumpf would have just continued kicking this can so my grandkids could be the one to deal with it!


Sounds good to me, let those little frickers deal with it. Iran will probably still be 2 weeks from a bomb then too
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9234 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:40 am to
What would it take for the US to force the Strait open? Somehow clearing all of the risk that creates the insurance forced shutdowns (mines, drones, attacks, etc)?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15533 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:44 am to
Boy Trump really jumped feet first into this pile of shite.

Just fricking open the straits yourself, cease all communication and blow the straits open. End their military.
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