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re: Iran just proved its missiles can reach far beyond the Middle East. Trump was correct
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:13 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:13 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Be sure to find my isolationist posts since you responded to my comment. You won't find them. Just like you won't find me saying anything the first time we hit Iran.
As to the Ukraine, I've said the same thing. You can dislike Zelensky and Putin. It isn't binary. And I have been 100% against the beta conservatives who love Putin simply because he isn't a pussy. Putin is a murdering monster but at the same time it doesn't mean I want to spend 200 billion on attacking Russia.
Openly paying for the Ukrainian defense isn't a proxy war in my mind. So my main dislike in aiding the Ukraine was that we were fully funding attacks on a nuclear power which could go badly for us if Putin decided he might as well bring us openly and fully into the war. That isn't isolationism. I simply don't think it is wise to openly attack another nuclear power. Just because we wouldn't use nukes doesn't mean Putin wouldn't. Having said that, I am 100% against Russia's attack on the Ukraine. I don't think Putin will ever back down and to this day I think he would nuke the Ukraine before pulling out if he determined he could no longer fund his ground war.
And I pray I am 100% wrong on how far Putin is willing to take it. I would love to have to admit I was wrong.
As to the Ukraine, I've said the same thing. You can dislike Zelensky and Putin. It isn't binary. And I have been 100% against the beta conservatives who love Putin simply because he isn't a pussy. Putin is a murdering monster but at the same time it doesn't mean I want to spend 200 billion on attacking Russia.
Openly paying for the Ukrainian defense isn't a proxy war in my mind. So my main dislike in aiding the Ukraine was that we were fully funding attacks on a nuclear power which could go badly for us if Putin decided he might as well bring us openly and fully into the war. That isn't isolationism. I simply don't think it is wise to openly attack another nuclear power. Just because we wouldn't use nukes doesn't mean Putin wouldn't. Having said that, I am 100% against Russia's attack on the Ukraine. I don't think Putin will ever back down and to this day I think he would nuke the Ukraine before pulling out if he determined he could no longer fund his ground war.
And I pray I am 100% wrong on how far Putin is willing to take it. I would love to have to admit I was wrong.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 2:21 pm
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Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:32 pm to jammajin
Imagine being so retarded you think this is a new east. We've been at war with Iran and its proxies for 40 years.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:41 pm to TigerMyth36
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the Ukraine
Why do you call it this?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:44 pm to Mo Jeaux
Plenty of people do, regardless of who says what is correct or incorrect. I was watching a vintage WWII documentary recently, “Dateline WWII,” and the narrator referred to it as “the Ukraine.” It did catch my attention, for the same general reason it did yours. You just never know. You know?
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:45 pm to davyjones
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Plenty of people do, regardless of who says what is correct or incorrect. I was watching a vintage WWII documentary recently, “Dateline WWII,” and the narrator referred to it as “the Ukraine.” You just never know. You know?
During WWII it was “the Ukraine”.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:46 pm to Mo Jeaux
United States. The United States. It’s all the same thing to me.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:51 pm to davyjones
The France
The Spain
The Mexico
The Brazil
The Russia
Your example of the U.S. was kind of dumb. I’ll let you figure out why.
The Spain
The Mexico
The Brazil
The Russia
Your example of the U.S. was kind of dumb. I’ll let you figure out why.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:51 pm to TigerMyth36
Fair enough.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:58 pm to kingbob
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I see “The United States of America” isn’t in range. I guess Europe should really get on that, then.
Exactly. But but Trump said so we have to agree no matter what. Even though Jared Kushner’s creepy arse is leading negotiations and Netanyahu said they have nukes ten thousand times. The whole thing is dumb and we’ll be at $150 per barrel soon.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 2:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
Is it uncommon to hear someone say “the Ukraine?” No. Is it uncommon to hear someone refer to the examples you listed as “the?” Yes. Good thing we’re not talking about them, and are talking about the Ukraine. Now how dumb is it to have actually tried to use “dumb” with me?
ETA….I myself use “Ukraine” straight up without any “the,” but I thought it a bit wishful for you to try to flex with this. Or anything, for that matter.
ETA….I myself use “Ukraine” straight up without any “the,” but I thought it a bit wishful for you to try to flex with this. Or anything, for that matter.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:03 pm to davyjones
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Now how dumb is it to have actually tried to use “dumb” with me?
Not dumb at all, because you’re just showing that you’re unable to understand the point being made.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:06 pm to Mo Jeaux
Mm hmm. Try to salvage you some sort of self respect, I guess I can’t fault you for that.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:08 pm to davyjones
Uh, what? Are you retarded?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:14 pm to stout
Was anyone questioning the range of their missiles? I thought their nuclear capabilities are the concern. We have our work cut out for us if we are now policing all of our adversaries’ missile capabilities. Irans missiles are a result of the war against their nuke production not a justification of the war in the first place
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:20 pm to High Life
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Was anyone questioning the range of their missiles?
The attack on Diego Garcia was their farthest operational launch on record and that range is farther than the capability that they’ve admitted having. Whether our intelligence knew about that capability is a separate matter.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 3:24 pm to High Life
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Was anyone questioning the range of their missiles? I thought their nuclear capabilities are the concern. We have our work cut out for us if we are now policing all of our adversaries’ missile capabilities. Irans missiles are a result of the war against their nuke production not a justification of the war in the first place
Don’t be an obtuse, they’ve stated multiple times on record they don’t build missiles that have that type of range. They stated the same about building nuclear devices and now there is public proof of their lies and deceit.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 4:37 pm to Aguga
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Don’t be an obtuse, they’ve stated multiple times on record they don’t build missiles that have that type of range. They stated the same about building nuclear devices and now there is public proof of their lies and deceit.
Khamanei lifted self imposed distance restrictions. Not the same thing as lying about the technological capabilities.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:16 pm to stout
Trump called the EU/NATO cowards....
He speaks truth.
He speaks truth.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:01 pm to stout
Candice just came out and said that Israel helped them fire those missiles on purpose.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 7:05 pm to stout
I don’t see any American city on the list. I thought we were getting out of nato?
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