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Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:33 am to themunch
They have a shitload of cash on hand to pay victims, when you got a trillion bucks on skids, you gotta do something with it. Joe and Hunter run out of pockets eventually.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:48 am to auggie
That's what you get when the leaders of your country are religiously inclined.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:01 am to Eurocat
What do you mean? What exactly do you get?
You think Iran’s leaders are simply religiously inclined? Wtf
You think Iran’s leaders are simply religiously inclined? Wtf
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:22 am to Eurocat
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That's what you get when the leaders of your country are religiously inclined.
That they tell the truth. I agree.
Considering every thing and making a wise decision.
Think for a couple of minutes, how terrorism and global shadow war might be ending.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 8:42 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:00 am to bird35
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Ukraine and Canada can handle this or not.
I don't care.
Not our problem.
So very much this ^^^
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:51 am to Wednesday
Y'know, the more I think about this, the more I can't blame the Iranians for shooting it down. Well, I can, because it was all on them.
BUT: they were damn nervous that we still might strike them. If we would have done any sort of manned aircraft sortie, you KNOW we'd target and destroy any/all anti-aircraft radar we could find. And if not us, then Israel for that matter.
It wouldn't shock me if at least some of the Iranians manning those sites were told to shoot the moment anything pops up, because you might not get time to confirm anything. At least for the first several hours after they launched, until it was clear we weren't coming screaming in hot.
How in the frick anyone thought it was a good idea to fly a commercial jetliner that day is beyond me.
BUT: they were damn nervous that we still might strike them. If we would have done any sort of manned aircraft sortie, you KNOW we'd target and destroy any/all anti-aircraft radar we could find. And if not us, then Israel for that matter.
It wouldn't shock me if at least some of the Iranians manning those sites were told to shoot the moment anything pops up, because you might not get time to confirm anything. At least for the first several hours after they launched, until it was clear we weren't coming screaming in hot.
How in the frick anyone thought it was a good idea to fly a commercial jetliner that day is beyond me.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:05 am to Scoob
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If we would have done any sort of manned aircraft sortie
Which we wouldn't have. Doesn't take a whole bunch of military intelligence and experience and just plain ole common sense and intuition to conclude that the U.S. isn't going to put personnel at risk to hit targets that we can easily target with cruise missiles.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:14 am to Scoob
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It wouldn't shock me if at least some of the Iranians manning those sites were told to shoot the moment anything pops up, because you might not get time to confirm anything. At least for the first several hours after they launched, until it was clear we weren't coming screaming in hot.
The problem with this theory is that the US and the Iranians were communicating via secure back channels throughout the entire thing. President Trump was told of the missile attacks on our airbase in advance and had moved our troops out of harm's way before it happened. He heard about it from the Iranian leadership themselves. It was orchestrated.
Iran knew that the US wasn't going to retaliate or escalate.
There was another reason for shooting down the plane. It must be because of who was on the plane. And if they had defecting generals on board, like some have suggested, then it makes perfect sense why they might shoot it down. They just had one of their top commanders defect just a few weeks back. I'm sure they aren't too keen on allowing more of their top leadership to defect to another country.
Defecting generals is the most plausible theory I've seen on it so far.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:30 am to BoarEd
I still want to know why the flight and Soleimani's thugs were headed to Canada. The loss of civilian life is a tragedy, but I really hope that does not get in the way of asking our friends up North the tough questions involving global and national security.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:37 am to L1C4
Why were planes being allowed to take off during the time that they were launching missles?
Bad idea.
Bad idea.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:47 am to vuvuzela
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I have trouble connecting your dots on the coup. How could the downing of this aircraft assisted that?
The Supreme leader was going to be over thrown by military generals who wanted war. I never would have guessed the supreme leader would be one to capitulate! The downing of the airliner did not assist the coup, it prevented it or was retaliation against those that were going to be part of it prior to Salami being killed.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:50 am to omegaman66
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:55 am to Tiger at Law
Is there another individual terrorist that has more American blood on his hands since 2001 than Soleimani, other than Osama bin Laden, of course?
Seems to me it is, or was (1) bin Laden; (2) Soleimani
Am I wrong??
Seems to me it is, or was (1) bin Laden; (2) Soleimani
Am I wrong??
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 12:32 pm to AU86
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Why were planes being allowed to take off during the time that they were launching missles?
the missiles launched into Iraq were surface to surface, from a position nowhere near the airport. The plane was evidently taken down by anti aircraft surface to air missiles from a completely different location. The airliner was not caught in the crossfire if that’s what you meant. These are sophisticated targeting systems not mortar fire
Posted on 1/11/20 at 12:35 pm to omegaman66
that’s a stretch though I’ll admit that in the absence of an explanation like that taking down the civilian jet makes no sense. There were dozens of departing flights from Tehran that day and night, and Iranian air defense would know exactly when and where any scheduled use of their airspace would occur
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