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re: Iowa senate passes bill banning abortions once heartbeat is detected

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Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:04 am to
The ones that defend scraping out a tiny human are sickening.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20917 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:26 am to
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I'm sorry that you think science can be so cruel but there's just really not a lot to backup your idea that this is murdering a human somehow
Science proves that which you call just a mass of cells is equally human to you.

Just at different points in their life cycle.

Please don't ever reproduce, the world has more than enough morons without you adding more
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:00 am to
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A single sperm cell has life. 

Life is not the issue. 


So, life: check
Human: check

But not "human life"? Is it a lizard life? Salt life? (eta: an embryo, unlike a "single sperm cell," also has a genetic identity that is different from each of its progenitors--sorry, sorry, i keep forgetting, you hate science)

These are the gymnastics it takes to make these homicides "justifiable."

What is it? Only "viable" human life deserves constitutional protection?

I'll hit the ball back in your court to tell me how this all works in the Nazi mind:

We are willing to guess about viability? Real-life example: My wife teaches a precious deaf girl (she is black, btw, a "race" whose members are disproportionate victims of this form of murder) who can now hear due to cochlear implants--a miracle of science, a method which you apparently despise.

She was born at 24 weeks. Was she viable? Only in hindsight? Half the states would've allowed her to be murdered. Now she can hear and speak. You, sir, are a monster.

Are you monsters willing to draw the distinction between viable and inviable human life based on what side of a piece of skin the "thing" happens to find itself?

"Move one millimeter this way, ma'am... voila! (sorry, walla!), congratulations. You are now a human life according to Rex, and I bestow upon thee all of these here rights attendant thereto!"

Question: if you leave a 2 year old to her own devices, will she be "viable"?

The best theoretical argument to me for legal abortion is, legalization actually reduces the number of abortions over time.

But a) I highly doubt that's true (show me), b) that isn't how our justice system works, and c) if it is indeed how it works or how you think it should work, then anyone who is pro-abortion and yet pro-gun-bans is a sad little hypocrite.

I have a lot more, I can't wait to see the next Rex screen turd.
This post was edited on 3/2/18 at 7:39 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:16 am to
Most physicians take some form of a Hippocratic oath seriously and won't perform abortions. Those that do often come from the dregs of the profession.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:19 am to
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Those that do often come from the dregs of the profession.


Case in point:

Posted by Walkthedawg
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:40 am to




You're lying to yourself if you think that isn't a human life. I won't even post the disgusting pictures of partial birth abortions. It's sad that many in our society have a cold heart that cares nothing about human life.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:57 am to
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You're lying to yourself if you think that isn't a human life


i assume this is a generic "yourself" or else was intended for Rex and the other Nazi abortionists in this threat, and not me.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 8:11 am to
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Iowa senate passes bill banning abortions once heartbeat is detected



Props and Jesus agrees with this
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29728 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 8:17 am to
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!

Oh, wait.
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 8:20 am to
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assume this is a generic "yourself" or else was intended for Rex and the other Nazi abortionists in this threat, and not me.


I was agreeing with you
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 8:25 am to
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Waste of time, will be overturned
while I agree with the law, this is a waste of time
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 8:32 am to
You guys are special.
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:09 am to
If by special you mean evil you would be correct.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7180 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:18 am to
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while I agree with the law, this is a waste of time


Maybe not. The SC may want to hear it, and Roe is just a bad interpretation. Even pro-abortion people concede there is no basis for the opinion other than it is what the Justices wanted to be the opinion.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:26 am to
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there is no basis for the opinion other than it is what the Justices wanted to be the opinion. 


Yeah, abortion aside, it is inimical to our constitutional republic and the rule of written law and separation of powers generally.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:30 am to
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I won't even post the disgusting pictures of partial birth abortions.


Partial birth abortions are illegal in the US, except when the mom's life is in danger.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:33 am to
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Partial birth abortions are illegal in the US, except when the mom's life is in danger.


But aborting at 24-26 weeks isn't in half the states. See my post about wife's patient.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:37 am to
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quote:
Partial birth abortions are illegal in the US, except when the mom's life is in danger.


quote:

But aborting at 24-26 weeks isn't in half the states. See my post about wife's patient.



I was just responding to the poster who talked about posting photos of partial-birth abortions. It would have been irrelevant and an emotional fallacy.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:39 am to
Agree
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:40 am to
About like the gun debate.
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