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re: Iowa Selzer poll has Kamala in the lead

Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:52 pm to
You probably think there’s sex in the champagne room.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Either you think it’s a legit poll or you don’t.


What about that confused you?

It was in response to that guy saying the timing was suspicious, but we knew this poll was coming tonight

The Emerson “oddity” was in reference to their timing, not their result.

Is that what has you all twisted in knots? Come on bro
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:52 pm to
Not that it's a good thing or not

I'm asking about the significance of it statistically
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:52 pm to
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an A+ pollster

For three more days
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:53 pm to
Because Scruffy is concussed, presumably
Posted by Bunta
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:54 pm to
Now THAT’S how you get favorable Iowa polls from Cameluh
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:55 pm to
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They obviously can't poll Iowa well



Selzer polls Iowa very, very well. If Trump wins Iowa by 6, Selzer would have missed this poll more than every presidential, senatorial, and gubernatorial Iowa poll - combined - going back to 2012. This is a wild outcome.

I think the posters are correct who say Kamala would have campaigned here if they even sniffed an opening.

But given this poll I will be suprised to see Trump’s win in Iowa by more than 5, and that could speak to some real headwinds for Trump on Election Day nationally.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:55 pm to
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This poll had Trump +18 over Biden in June. There is no fricking way Harris leads in Iowa.



And this is what makes it all complete garbage- Selzer says abortion is driving the flip, but they were willing to vote for Trump over Biden by 18 just a few months ago?

Not to mention the fact that Kim Reynolds won by 17 points in the abortion-wave
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:56 pm to
"It is not a leftist psyop!"

Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:57 pm to
It's a 2020 recall vote of Biden+5. If only the participants of this poll had voted in 2020, Biden would have won Iowa by 5 points. He lost by 8.5
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:00 pm to
Anyone who doesn't see this poll as extremely concerning for Trump is just lying to themselves. I think the more national pollsters have been overweighting the support for Trump as a way to try to "correct" for their past mistakes, and they will be wrong again, unfortunately. Potentially extremely wrong. If Trump takes Iowa even by a few points (which is likely), this is very bad news for PA, MI, WI, etc.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:01 pm to
Tell us more about your expertise with polling. I am intrigued.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:02 pm to
Concern noted, queer.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:03 pm to
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

But given this poll I will be suprised to see Trump’s win in Iowa by more than 5, and that could speak to some real headwinds for Trump on Election Day nationally


Emerson released a Iowa +10.5 for Trump today. More Accurate pollster than Ann has been since 2020
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

Anyone who doesn't see this poll as extremely concerning for Trump is just lying to themselves. I think the more national pollsters have been overweighting the support for Trump as a way to try to "correct" for their past mistakes, and they will be wrong again, unfortunately. Potentially extremely wrong. If Trump takes Iowa even by a few points (which is likely), this is very bad news for PA, MI, WI, etc.



This would all be legitimate if this poll was in any way believable, but the data reads like a directional school polling a state across the country. It's just SO bad that the whole thing can be dismissed
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:12 pm to
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I think the more national pollsters have been overweighting the support for Trump as a way to try to "correct" for their past mistakes, and they will be wrong again, unfortunately.

Yeah, the polls are overweighting Trump now, lol. Try again. Come back Wednesday.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:15 pm to
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Anyone who doesn't see this poll as extremely concerning for Trump is just lying to themselves. I think the more national pollsters have been overweighting the support for Trump as a way to try to "correct" for their past mistakes, and they will be wrong again, unfortunately. Potentially extremely wrong. If Trump takes Iowa even by a few points (which is likely), this is very bad news for PA, MI, WI, etc.

Bookmarking for Tuesday lmao
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