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re: Insuring pre-existing conditions
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
I think you are missing what insurance really is for. Its a hedge and the insurance company is assumming the risk that I would have to take.
Ex. I pay monthly premiums for my automobile insurance. If I don't file a claim against my insurance company, they get to keep they premiums. If I do file a claim, they assume any liablity.
But I know what you are alluding to. Many states HAD, and I emphazise the word 'HAD' what is called high risk insurance pools.
We could have easily beefed up these high-risk pools instead of wrecking the whole damn US Health care delivery system.
Ex. I pay monthly premiums for my automobile insurance. If I don't file a claim against my insurance company, they get to keep they premiums. If I do file a claim, they assume any liablity.
But I know what you are alluding to. Many states HAD, and I emphazise the word 'HAD' what is called high risk insurance pools.
We could have easily beefed up these high-risk pools instead of wrecking the whole damn US Health care delivery system.
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:36 pm to Scruffy
quote:Exactly. It's straight up socialism. I expect a denial. But it's right there in the etymology.
Well, call it what it is then. It isn't insurance.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
I would very much like to buy life insurance. But I prefer that my wife, the lovely Lucy, be allowed to buy it on the day I die.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:39 pm to Taxing Authority
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There are countries for that. I hate that ours is becoming one of them...
Name one western countr (i.e. place you would actually consider living in) that doesn't have some form of single payer.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:41 pm to Big Scrub TX
I dont have much of an issue with denying a person who is currently undergoing treatment, because that isnt insurance. What I have a problem with is denying people who have been in cancer remission for ten years or had a heart attack many years before
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:42 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Name one western countr (i.e. place you would actually consider living in) that doesn't have some form of single payer.
Have =\= working and logical
ETA: Name one western country as unhealthy as the US that has single payer. Name one western country that has as much abuse as the US that has single payer.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Name one western countr (i.e. place you would actually consider living in) that doesn't have some form of single payer.
The United States.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:47 pm to Qwerty
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quote: Name one western countr (i.e. place you would actually consider living in) that doesn't have some form of single payer.
Name one western country that offers single payer to non- citizens and is successful with it
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
Insuring against a recurring or likely to recur condition is, of course, not how true insurance should work, but, yes, I'm in favor. I don't care if it's mislabeled "insurance"; what's important is that people get health care.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:I four of your friedns jumped off a bridge, would you?
Name one western countr (i.e. place you would actually consider living in) that doesn't have some form of single payer.
Good grief. What a tired old saw of drivel.
The US didn't become an economic powerhouse by being LIKE those places. They used to be the powerhouses. We became the powerhouse we are by NOT being like them.
"Being like everybody else" is a recipe for mediocrity. Not excellence. Why the f*ck would strive for mediocrity?
PS> if their system is better, emigrate.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:52 pm to Rex
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not how true insurance should work, but, yes, I'm in favor.
Translation: You are in favor of welfare.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:53 pm to Zach
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Translation: You are in favor of welfare.
I'm in favor of health care welfare... of course. DUH.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:53 pm to Rex
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Insuring against a recurring or likely to recur condition is, of course, not how true insurance should work, but, yes, I'm in favor. I don't care if it's mislabeled "insurance"; what's important is that people get health care.
Thats a troubling precedent to set.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Thats a troubling precedent to set.
We're not setting any precedent. Other developed countries already have health care welfare. It's the humane thing to do.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:58 pm to Rex
quote:Nope. Taking money by force from one is never humane - regardless of what you do with money. Dependency is not humane either. It's enslaving.
It's the humane thing to do.
The humane thing to do is voluntarily help your fellow man in need. The humane thing to do is pay for what you take.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 3:59 pm to Taxing Authority
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Nope. Taking money by force from one is never humane - regardless of what you do with money.
Well, that's what a Republican dick would say, sure.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 4:00 pm to Rex
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We're not setting any precedent. Other developed countries already have health care welfare.
And they have inferior health outcomes across all disease states.
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It's the humane thing to do.
Debatable
Posted on 5/10/14 at 4:00 pm to Rex
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Well, that's what a Republican dick would say, sure.
You might as well said "Taxing Authority, you're right". Thanks! 
Posted on 5/10/14 at 4:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Name one western countr (i.e. place you would actually consider living in) that doesn't have some form of single payer.
Name one western country that has the demographics, median income, economy, population, welfare for its citizens and illegals, taxpayer abuse, lack of a balanced budget, and overall lifestyles that a country like the united states has and still has single payer that doesn't put them in debt and and it's run efficiently.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 4:06 pm to Rex
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Rex
I hope you like having money taken from you without any say from you.
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