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re: Indians are stealing tech industry jobs from Americans like Mexicans take blue collar jobs
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:20 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:20 pm to goldennugget
Indians should be sent back to India.
The globalists have set upon America a plague of unlimited illegal Hispanics and "legal" Indians on us.
It's all evil and they should be sent back, even ex post facto.
The globalists have set upon America a plague of unlimited illegal Hispanics and "legal" Indians on us.
It's all evil and they should be sent back, even ex post facto.
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:20 pm to BayouBlitz
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UAB has a ton of Indian students. A ton have cars and rent apartments. Where is the money coming from?
I've wondered for years where they got the money to buy gas stations and hotels in midwestern towns.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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this is true. But its not changing anytime soon.
Eh, it didn’t take long to get where we are. Motivation can be a funny thing.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:26 pm to deeprig9
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This comment makes me legitimately angry. When a corporation brings in 800 H1B's to work for an average $30,000 a year so you can replace your 800 perfectly competent American people who make $80,000 a year, that's not a "shortage" of skilled people. That's exploitation and it's wrong.
Well I didn't see that side of things. I was an outside recruiter, meaning that I recruited for small 3rd party companies and start ups who didn't have their own recruiting staff.
So my take is that the current visa / immigration structure is far too heavily weighted towards Fortune 100 corporations.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:32 pm to udtiger
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Major companies are offshoring engineering jobs to India (ExxonMobil and Shell, for example).
Yep. Shell and Exxon have a long history of their back office support being in the Phillipeans(sp).
Shell has ramped that up as well as pushed a shitload of jobs to Poland and India.
That’s why I want to run into their stupid billboards pretending to support Louisiana.
And for fricks sake, they sold their Deerpark refinery to the Mexican government ran oil company.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:33 pm to goldennugget
First we had QAnon.
Then BlueAnon.
Then JooAnon.
Now HinduAnon.
The jeets are also stealing all of our government positions!
Vance (married to one)
Vivek
Tulsi
Bhattacharya
Makary
Nesheiwat
Kash
Then BlueAnon.
Then JooAnon.
Now HinduAnon.
The jeets are also stealing all of our government positions!
Vance (married to one)
Vivek
Tulsi
Bhattacharya
Makary
Nesheiwat
Kash
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Motivation can be a funny thing.
Our elected officials will never take the safety net away. Combine that with gig work and the black market (multi billion dollar industry), and people arent going to be interested.
In a perfect world you remove the safety net and things improve rather quickly. But we dont have the guts.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:39 pm to goldennugget
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Indians coming to the US to take away all of the jobs in the tech industry.
DC is full of this
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In a perfect world you remove the safety net and things improve rather quickly. But we dont have the guts.
Any talk of shaking up the welfare government tit sucking(this includes fake disability and stuff like it) and you will be labeled a racist. No political figure has wanted to take on that fight lately. Maybe that will change.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:41 pm to FLTech
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Not to sound like an American hating a-hole but I have outsourced work to Indians and they are just as talented as Americans but they work 100 times harder than Americans
What kind of work did you outsource to them?
In my experience, I would have to spend half the day telling them how to wipe their arse, and shocker - nothing worked and we had to clean up their mess.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:43 pm to notiger1997
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Any talk of shaking up the welfare government tit sucking(this includes fake disability and stuff like it) and you will be labeled a racist. No political figure has wanted to take on that fight lately. Maybe that will change.
Right. Its has certainly been a weapon for a while, and its effective. Hopefully some backlash will occur.
The incumbent almost always wins anyway, no real need for them to care about real change.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:44 pm to SirWinston
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Well I didn't see that side of things. I was an outside recruiter, meaning that I recruited for small 3rd party companies and start ups who didn't have their own recruiting staff.
What I'm hearing is that you don't really know jack shite about the subject but have worked briefly (your words, not mine) on the periphery of the issue. Your customer said he needs a Cisco certified network expert with experience in the VOIP platforms, integration with Telepresence, and troubleshooting skills on not just the network, but other office IT problems with Windows, experience with public cloud platforms, kubernetes, and vmware along with hardware experience on both HP and Dell backplanes. Pay: $42,000 with benefits negotiable. Must live in San Jose.
That's not a shortage of qualified workers. That's a bullshite job description. People can make $42,000 at McDonald's.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:45 pm to goldennugget
Indians have a built in advantage. When they call tech support they can understand the person on the other end of the call.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:54 pm to FLTech
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Not to sound like an American hating a-hole but I have outsourced work to Indians and they are just as talented as Americans but they work 100 times harder than Americans
I work with hundreds a day across the hierarchy from leaders to scrubs. There's good ones and bad ones, just like anyone else. Just like Americans. That's not the point. The point is we are replacing our own jobs with foreigners who aren't necessarily "better", they are just cheaper per hour.
An anarcho-libertarian might not have a problem with this, but I do.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:54 pm to deeprig9
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Pay: $42,000 with benefits negotiable. Must live in San Jose.
that'll get you laughed out of both LA and L.A., let alone silicon valley. But yeah, it's not a shortage, it's a shortage at what they want to pay.
I'd be more worried about Latin and South America getting in on American tech jobs long term before the Indians. It's easier to outsource there and there's less of a talent gap.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:58 pm to goldennugget
A lot of young Americans are going to have wages depressed and face Indians taking their jobs.
Public accounting firms have used them for years and lately they had a big push to use more of them to do a lot of work. It’s really going to end up hurting you staff as they can pay senior manager level Indians less than interns and bill that to clients at a huge profit.
The only problem is the Indian teams aren’t nearly as good as the American counterpart and you spend a ton of time fixing their mistakes. It’s like dealing with early stages of AI.
Public accounting firms have used them for years and lately they had a big push to use more of them to do a lot of work. It’s really going to end up hurting you staff as they can pay senior manager level Indians less than interns and bill that to clients at a huge profit.
The only problem is the Indian teams aren’t nearly as good as the American counterpart and you spend a ton of time fixing their mistakes. It’s like dealing with early stages of AI.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:03 pm to goldennugget
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The Indians I've worked with in my roles are utter trash co-workers. They are like robots... they can do the menial, repetitive tasks fine, but anything that requires communication, people skills, or problem solving when things go off track... they become totally useless
This has been my exact experience with the Indian teams we had. I pushed back on the partners that we are one wasting my time, two hurting client quality and killing our pipeline in the name of short term profit.
They can plug and play numbers, well if I want that don’t I can build a alteryx work and not even have to pay it. The second a new fact pattern comes in or something that isn’t extremely detailed in writing happens they stop.
They can’t contact clients, they can’t reach out to jurisdictions, they don’t look up the law or try to problem solve. I’d rather an American college student do the work.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:06 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
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I'd be more worried about Latin and South America getting in on American tech jobs long term before the Indians. It's easier to outsource there and there's less of a talent gap.
They already are. They have been. The problem with getting their foot in the door is time zones. The outsourcing starts with offshoring, the first thing you offshore in IT is afterhours support, so in India that's normal working hours, you get better people. Then once you convince the US company you've done a good job in that, they agree to let you take over a little more, then a little more, and up to what we have today, which is also going to get more and more. Additionally, everyone in India, in most caste's, learn English in all their classes starting in Kindergarten. Their accents don't reflect this, but that's because their native languages are non-Germanic and non-Romantic, so even a fluent speaker from India is going to have a strong accent whereas a German or even a Mexican could sound much smoother because their native languages, verbally and alphabetically, have so much more in common with English, despite not having as much experience in the language as an Indian.
But I digress too far into linquistic anthropology.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:08 pm to goldennugget
Yep. Alpharetta population is now over 20% Indian. It’s happening everywhere.
We’ve gotta stop letting companies kill us for cheap labor.
We’ve gotta stop letting companies kill us for cheap labor.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:12 pm to goldennugget
What kind of tech?
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