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re: In-Game Thread- Justice Department IG Testifies on FISA Abuse Allegations

Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:32 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:32 am to
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IG just said he would NOT have entered the original FISA warrant.



Because the IG was never desperate enough to get a FISA warrant to cover for the spying that was taking place before July 31, 2016 when the FISA was approved. The FBI had good motivation to get a FISA warrant. From my understanding this was their third attempt on Carter Page and FISA warrants are rarely declined. The FBI was not only desperate to reverse engineer a crime on Trump campaign associates they were desperate to reverse engineer a crime to cover their malfeasance.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:32 am to
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"If this is a counter-intelligence investigation, who are they trying to protect?"


quote:

"What would you call a counter-intelligence investigation without a protective element?" "Did they ever try to protect Donald Trump from foreign influence?"


Boom!
Posted by bayouvette
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:32 am to
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An FBI lawyer doctored the email from the CIA spook that cleared Carter Page's Russian contact as being work Page did for the CIA.


the viva resistance guy..

Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
908 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:33 am to
I know I'm not supposed to say this here: but Miss Lindsey is doing a great job of getting Horowitz to answer questions. And he's being quite forthcoming.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:34 am to
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Wrong. An FBI lawyer doctored the email from the CIA spook that cleared Carter Page's Russian contact as being work Page did for the CIA.


thanks for the correction
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:34 am to
I'll be pissed if that happens tomorrow.

Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:35 am to
"Illegal surveillance"

Oh...
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:35 am to
FBI fricked Trump on his counter-intel briefing.

I love the way LG is doing this. Especially, the way he keeps looking at the dems when he speaks.

Posted by babymaker
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:36 am to
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I’m still not understanding the no finding of bias angle. There was clear bias.
He says in the report that there is "no documentation or testimony" that said bias. Basically, he asked and they said no and there wasnt documents attesting to bias. It's pretty obvious there was, but cannot prove it.
The criminal investigation will show it.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:36 am to
Miss Lindsey is setting up Carter Page for having one helluva lawsuit against the FBI for illegally surveilling him (illegal because they hid/ignored evidence that cleared him of the predication for the legal aspect of the surveillance).
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:37 am to
LG did a great job.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12947 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:37 am to
Yeah Graham did a great job of questioning and getting Horowitz to answer these questions. Dems and FBI exposed.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22681 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:37 am to
Who says that the opening of the investigation wasn't legitimate. They set Pap up but based on what he said there was a legitimate reason to start the investigation. There was no legitimate reason to continue it.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101850 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:38 am to
"Is that spying?"

"It is...unlawful surveillance."


He's been instructed to avoid the word spying.

No no it wasnt spying. It was intelligence gathering through non-mainstream techniques.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:38 am to
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He says in the report that there is "no documentation or testimony" that said bias. Basically, he asked and they said no and there wasnt documents attesting to bias. It's pretty obvious there was, but cannot prove it.


That is an incredibly important distinction that none in the usual media suspects have not mentioned.

I'm sure that missing information is just a coincidence. :jerkoff.gif:
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 10:40 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:38 am to
So the predicate is the GP's meeting with Mifsud.

The same Mifsud that stage a set up for the FBI.

Wow.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22442 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:38 am to
All Feinstein is doing is reading the report back to Horowitz.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:39 am to
I think he’s just being very careful with his words so as to not find himself in a bad position later.
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2361 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:39 am to
Graham needs to push the Comey stuff...

Could you have gotten more information from Comey if he accepted his security clearance for purposes of your investigation?

He refused, correct?

Did you ask him why?

Did he tell you why?

Wouldn't it have been helpful?

Etc., etc.
Posted by Kcrad
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:40 am to
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LG did a great job.



This. As someone mentioned earlier, Horowitz was very forthcoming in his answers. No mealy mouth equivocations, just straight answers. I feel these people involved with this travesty will be paying the price.
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