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re: In fundraising speech, Trump says he made up trade claim in meeting with Justin Trudeau
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:51 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:51 am to LSURussian
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Bless your little snowflake heart.....
You came in here with your chest puffed out and full of bluster, but have been proven wrong at every turn. Good strategy to turn to the "snowflake" insults.
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:52 am to tigerinDC09
I thought the money came from Trump’s attorney per Stormy herself. So if reimbursed by trump couldn’t he have simply added that in to legal fees? No separate disclosure necessary?
It seems like this is a straw...and it’s fraying from how often it’s been grasped.
It seems like this is a straw...and it’s fraying from how often it’s been grasped.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:54 am to The Spleen
quote:First class melt!!
You came in here with your chest puffed out and full of bluster,
quote:Nope. But keep denying the facts given in the links if that makes you feel better about yourself.
but have been proven wrong at every turn.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:54 am to tigerinDC09
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The Office of the United States Trade Representative says the United States has a trade surplus with Canada.
As does the BEA.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:55 am to LSURussian
quote:It's pissing me off that you are making me agree with tigerindc.
It's explained in the article linked by the snowflake. Are you too lazy to read it?
Sorry man, I would include services as well when looking at trade, just like the executive office of the POTUS does.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:55 am to LSURussian
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As your OP link says, it turns out Trump was right. We have a $17 billion/year deficit with Canada. Thank you for confirming how wise Trump is.....
How do you compute a $17 billion/year deficit dumb arse. The article stated, "Well, sir, you're actually right. We have no deficit but that doesn't include energy and timber . . . And when you do, we lose $17 billion a year.' It's incredible."
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:57 am to tigerinDC09
So your gotcha fail thread #89 turned into you proving Trump is a stable genius.
Thanks for confirming that for us
Thanks for confirming that for us
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:57 am to The Spleen
quote:
The article isn't written very well and is somewhat confusing. I had to read it a few times to unravel what they were saying, and it is saying Trump was wrong and we run a trade surplus with Canada. The guy Trump quotes referencing the energy and timber is a Canadian guy.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 8:59 am
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:58 am to LSURussian
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But keep denying the facts given in the links
Every link I've clicked in this thread confirms we run a trade surplus with Canada. I haven't denied that a single time.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:02 am to The Spleen
Maybe this will help you calm down:
If it's a surplus for Canada, that means it's a deficit for the U.S.
Bloomberg: "Trump May Actually Be Right About the Trade Deficit With Canada"
quote:So, Canada's own measure shows they have a trade surplus with the U.S.
But Statistics Canada data show it’s Canada with the surplus in goods and services, totaling C$18.8 billion ($14.6 billion) last year.
If it's a surplus for Canada, that means it's a deficit for the U.S.
Bloomberg: "Trump May Actually Be Right About the Trade Deficit With Canada"
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:03 am to LSURussian
Yeah, I read that as well. Each country is touting a surplus.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:05 am to 90proofprofessional
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:05 am to The Spleen
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We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesn’t like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and that’s how I know!
And Now Trump as expected, is doubling down on the lie.
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We do have a Trade Deficit with Canada, as we do with almost all countries (some of them massive). P.M. Justin Trudeau of Canada, a very good guy, doesn’t like saying that Canada has a Surplus vs. the U.S.(negotiating), but they do...they almost all do...and that’s how I know!
And Now Trump as expected, is doubling down on the lie.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:06 am to LSURussian
I'm not the one lobbing insults in every post, so I don't think I'm the one that needs to calm down.
And cool. 69 posts into the thread we now have 2 sources that claim something different than the original link. Took long enough.
I'm pretty ignorant on trade policy, so I'm not going to debate it. Up until your link, there were no links that claimed the US had a trade deficit with Canada.
And cool. 69 posts into the thread we now have 2 sources that claim something different than the original link. Took long enough.
I'm pretty ignorant on trade policy, so I'm not going to debate it. Up until your link, there were no links that claimed the US had a trade deficit with Canada.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:09 am to LSURussian
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Only if "services" are included.
As they very obviously should be.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:09 am to LSURussian
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We we always talk about trade surpluses and deficits it's the value of goods being traded that we are referring to.
No.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:11 am to Yak
quote:Proving there are 3 types of lies, 1) lies, 2) damn lies and, 3) statistics.
Each country is touting a surplus.
Back to the point of the OP, Trump was sure, based on our history of unfavorable trade agreements with our trading partners, that we have a trade deficit with Canada. He didn't know for a fact but his intuition told him that had to be the case.
The OP wants to make it look like Trump lied about it. Instead, the data shows Trump was likely correct when it comes to the trading of goods, like aluminum and steel (and lumber and energy products), which was the topic of the meeting, not software licenses.
Trudeau's own government's statistics say Trump was right and Trudeau was wrong.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:12 am to 90proofprofessional
Yes.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:12 am to tigerinDC09
It's a headliner for the day Anti Trumpers
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:13 am to 90proofprofessional
quote:Why? The meeting was to discuss the trade imbalance involving goods like aluminum and steel. They weren't there to discuss consulting services.
As they very obviously should be.
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