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re: In fundraising speech, Trump says he made up trade claim in meeting with Justin Trudeau

Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:35 am to
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:35 am to
quote:

We have a $17 billion/year deficit with Canada.

So why did you post a link with fake news in it?


This is from Trump's guy telling Trump. Not independent reporting from WaPo, learn how quotes work.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 9:09 am
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9952 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:36 am to
Bet he won’t lie to his daddy Putin
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:39 am to
quote:

As your OP link says, it turns out Trump was right. We have a $17 billion/year deficit with Canada.




The link doesn't show that at all. It actually shows we have a trade surplus with Canada.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133733 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:40 am to
I just caught you in another lie.

The link you posted says we have a goods trade deficit with Canada and you ignored that part of the article.

quote:

Canada is currently our 2nd largest goods trading partner with $544.0 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2016. Goods exports totaled $266.0 billion; goods imports totaled $278.1 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $12.1 billion in 2016.

What is it with you having to lie to make a point? That's very revealing...
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Energy and lumber are big trade items. Why do you think those should be excluded from any trade discussion?



We have a trade surplus with Canada, that's fact.

Trump said we have a trade deficit with Canada, that's false.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133733 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:40 am to
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The link doesn't show that at all. It actually shows we have a trade surplus with Canada.
Okay so we have another poster who can't read.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10690 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:41 am to
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It's like Trump saying LSU won all of their games last year. Then one of his people coming back and saying yeah if you don't count the ones where another team scored more points than LSU, he's right!

You're not good with analogies are you?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Okay so we have another poster who can't read.



Really?

quote:

The Office of the United States Trade Representative says the United States has a trade surplus with Canada.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133733 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:43 am to
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We have a trade surplus with Canada, that's fact.
Only if "services" are included.

When it comes to goods being traded, we have a deficit with Canada. The link you provided says just that.

Quit trying to make shite up after your own link says otherwise.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I just caught you in another lie. The link you posted says we have a goods trade deficit with Canada and you ignored that part of the article.


Trade includes Goods and Services.

When you look at the total differences between goods and services between US and Canada, we have a surplus.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:44 am to
quote:

The link you posted says we have a goods trade deficit with Canada and you ignored that part of the article.
It also says we have a surplus when adding all together though:
quote:

U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $627.8 billion in 2016. Exports were $320.1 billion; imports were $307.6 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016.


Which is correct?
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10690 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

When it comes to goods being traded, we have a deficit with Canada. The link you provided says just tha

You' probably have an easier time explaining that to the next duck you see swimming in a pond then to our liberal friends here.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

tigerinDC09


You need a dolly, Snowflake.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 9:07 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133733 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:46 am to
quote:

we have a surplus when adding all together though:
Including "services." Goods being traded creates a deficit for the U.S.

We we always talk about trade surpluses and deficits it's the value of goods being traded that we are referring to.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57065 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Trump said we have a Trade deficit with Canada.



And he was talking to Trudeau. Not making a sweeping proclamation. Clutching your pearls, much?

quote:

In order to make Trump not look so bad they came back and said well when you look at only energy and timber that's true.



You should be on medication.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Including "services." Goods being traded creates a deficit for the U.S.

We we always talk about trade surpluses and deficits it's the value of goods being traded that we are referring to.
What constitutes a "service" anyways?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65860 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:47 am to
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If there are texts and God forbid sexts/videos of Trump with Stormy, this place will go full on Infowars on how they will come up w/ conspiracies.


Only liberals would try to ignore the president who got a beej in the Oval Office, and freak out about one who possibly did something in private over a decade ago.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Including "services." Goods being traded creates a deficit for the U.S. We we always talk about trade surpluses and deficits it's the value of goods being traded that we are referring to.


You are just wrong:

International trade - Wikipedia
LINK

International trade is the exchange of capital, goods, and services across international borders or territories.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133733 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:49 am to
Bless your little snowflake heart.....
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133733 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:50 am to
quote:

What constitutes a "service" anyways?
It's explained in the article linked by the snowflake. Are you too lazy to read it?
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