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Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:10 pm to cuyahoga tiger
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quote: He owns this shite now True...did he not think the EO out?...no reason to go back on his "taxpayers shouldn't be subsidizing insurance companies stock prices" ramble....I'm a Trump/non-political class supporter, but how does he/his advisers not figure this out? hell, I heard him say today, in so many words..."we'll continue to let the tax payers continue to guarantee tax industry profits for two years, and fix it before then"....someone please explain this to me
bump for a reply...I want to understand this play
Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:12 pm to Jim Rockford
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he's already spoken favorably about it.
Trump is not always right and has made missteps and critical strategic errors before.
No one bats 1.000%.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:12 pm to GumboPot
I'm surprised at you. I thought you realized what kind of game we were now playing.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 8:18 pm to GumboPot
you arent. a grand slam on tax reform would save him
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:01 pm to Sentrius
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Hopefully the freedom caucus stand strong against this bill.
I'm sure they will, but the concern is if there is enough of the other GOPers to side with the Dems to out vote the Freedom Caucus.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:08 pm to Bamatab
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I'm sure they will, but the concern is if there is enough of the other GOPers to side with the Dems to out vote the Freedom Caucus.
It's not just the freedom caucus but they also could get enough of the republican study committee which was actually the most conservative bloc in Congress before the freedom caucus was actually a thing.
Remember the 2013 amnesty bill got 68 votes in the senate and died a quick death in the house as it wasn't even taken up for consideration. Something similar could and likely will happen.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:23 pm to Sentrius
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Something similar could and likely will happen.
I hope you're right.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:28 pm to Bamatab
The GOP house as a whole is way more conservative than the moderate GOP senate.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:25 pm to uway
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I'm surprised at you. I thought you realized what kind of game we were now playing.
I don’t understand this move. If this bill passes congress and Trump signs it, not good. That’s a MAJOR campaign promise broken.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:30 pm to Sentrius
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Remember the 2013 amnesty bill got 68 votes in the senate and died a quick death in the house as it wasn't even taken up for consideration. Something similar could and likely will happen.
Boenher dropped it because Brat beat House majority whip Eric Cantor. Boenher had the votes the day of the election. The day after several House GOPers switched their vote and the bill died. Thank God.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:39 pm to GumboPot
An informal policy of Speakers since the nineties is not to bring bills to the floor unless the majority of their own party favors it. They are not bound by the rule, and nearly all have violated it at one time or another, but rarely. I think if it came to a vote, enough Republicans would join with the Democrats to pass it. But I don't expect it to get that far.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:33 am to JuiceTerry
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He owns this shite now
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JuiceTerry
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:37 am to GumboPot
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I don’t understand this move. If this bill passes congress and Trump signs it, not good. That’s a MAJOR campaign promise broken.
lets see what you say when he signs it.
He is going to sign it. he will sign anything that hits his desk.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:38 am to bobby_3_sticks
Bruh, I wouldn’t be all laughing.
The fricking thing needs to get to his desk FIRST.
The fricking thing needs to get to his desk FIRST.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:01 am to GumboPot
Either way it strengthens the minority....if it passes and Trump signs it the repeal and replace crowd will lambaste the entire GOP if it doesn't pass Trump and company own health care lock, stock and barrel and the democrats can point to it as an attempt to reach across the aisle that resulted in a slap to the face......
Whoever talked Trump into this EO is the inside leaker.......they have done more damage to Trump and the GOP than a fleet of special prosecutors can do......or he did it on his own and he either ignored advice not to OR his ego has really placed in a tenuous position.....his gang of yes men let him down on this one.....
Whoever talked Trump into this EO is the inside leaker.......they have done more damage to Trump and the GOP than a fleet of special prosecutors can do......or he did it on his own and he either ignored advice not to OR his ego has really placed in a tenuous position.....his gang of yes men let him down on this one.....
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:10 am to cuyahoga tiger
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I call BS on this....think about it, this would simply let the marketplace and consumers and unfortunately the ER's to go back to before the ACA...we were all happy with our coverage and cost
Difficult to tell sarcasm in this medium but no one was happy with their costs before the ACA......if you had employees and we're taking part if their salaries to pay for their healthcare you know that premiums had been going up 30-50% a year for about 20 years.......that shite ceased as the ACA was phased in....the individual market premiums went up because you had to actually have a policy that covered you instead of one the made you a liability to the rest of us......
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:05 am to beerJeep
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Idgaf either way as my healthy young single arse won't be paying for insurance for the second year in a row.
And if you get diagnosed with cancer this year, like thousands of "healthy young" people do, will you beg others to pay for your treatment or will you just die?
Only the biggest idiots think they don't need health insurance.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:22 am to GumboPot
So Congress puts a band aid on a bullet wound and it's officially Trump's fault when he vetoes it?
That may be one of the dumbest conclusions certain folks on the poliboard have come up with to date.
The best part about this is knowing which law makers really don't want this shite show of a legislative nightmare repealed/replaced/fixed/burned/office spaced.
Bannon is about to put in some work. People shite the bed when Trump won. How bad is it going to be when not only are Dems losing in states Trump won, but faux Dems/Republican establishment candidates are getting beat like the red headed step child in their primaries?
That may be one of the dumbest conclusions certain folks on the poliboard have come up with to date.
The best part about this is knowing which law makers really don't want this shite show of a legislative nightmare repealed/replaced/fixed/burned/office spaced.
Bannon is about to put in some work. People shite the bed when Trump won. How bad is it going to be when not only are Dems losing in states Trump won, but faux Dems/Republican establishment candidates are getting beat like the red headed step child in their primaries?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:02 am to GumboPot
Swamp is deep and dangerous.
In december debt ceiling happens.
A big pile of pork shall be cooked.
Infrastrucure, bridge road rail air safety.
Popcorn eaters rejoice.
In december debt ceiling happens.
A big pile of pork shall be cooked.
Infrastrucure, bridge road rail air safety.
Popcorn eaters rejoice.
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