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re: Imagine if Obama pardoned Ray Nagin one day before Katrina made landfall

Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:54 pm to
I love when peopke like yourself out just how stupid they actually are...
Posted by iPadThai
Member since Oct 2011
1039 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:56 pm to
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The difference is Nagan broke the law.

Joe was enforcing it.

Joe was rewarded for racially profiling and arresting without cause, and then breaking the law by defying a judge's order to stop. Get your facts straight.
Posted by OnTheLevel State Fan
Member since Jul 2017
871 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:56 pm to
Imagine if bill clinton pardoned f.a.l.n terrorist's to hélp hildabeast ?in her senate seat.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Are you aware Arpaio was denied a jury trial?
You usually don't get one for contempt of court charges.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
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5618 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:58 pm to
Apples and oranges.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Joe was rewarded for racially profiling and arresting without cause, and then breaking the law by defying a judge's order to stop. Get your facts straight.



Lol.

You have no idea what hastened do you?

Just keep doubling down on stupid.

You did realize he was denied a jury trial, right? And even after all that the only thing that bitch judge could get him on was obstruction, right?

No. No you didn't. Because you're an idiot sheep
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2013
7232 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
This is just terrible.
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:05 pm to
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You did realize he was denied a trial by jury


Cheff v. Schnackenberg says he isn't guaranteed one. But why let facts get in your way?
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:07 pm to
CNN has elevated The Culture Wars Item Outrage Du Jour above the national interest. Fox and MSNBC, to a much lesser extent , have done the same thing. CNN has just abandoned all journalistic pretense and unapologetically operates as straight Progressive Agitprop.

The decision that principled liberals (assuming their are any left) have to make, is do they really want to continue to empower CNN to stay in this hyper-destructive mode of constant warfare against the other half the country, when it not only poisons the American well, but sends otherwise reluctant people running to the Trump coalition?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:11 pm to
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You usually don't get one for contempt of court charges.
Right. Prosectors are usually not punished for deliberate overreach or impediments to a fair trial either. That makes neither acceptable, or Constitutionally justified.

The potential conflict of interest rising from a judge both accusing and sentencing the defendant in contempt cases is ridiculous. It should NEVER occur!
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6432 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Joe was rewarded for racially profiling and arresting without cause, and then breaking the law by defying a judge's order to stop. Get your facts straight.


granting the executive the presidential pardon is a check and balance on courts who overreach and abuse their power.

whether or not Sheriff Joe's actions were discriminatory or not is irrelevant here. if you believe they were not, then you would view his conviction as clear cut political abuse by an Obama appointed judge.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115415 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:20 pm to
Shitty analogy is shitty.

He basically did it Tuesday night.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:20 pm to
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The potential conflict of interest rising from a judge both accusing and sentencing the defendant in contempt cases is ridiculous. It should NEVER occur!


It's a court order. You can appeal and so on. Do you really think that a jury trial every time an order is disobeyed would be good for the system?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23915 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:25 pm to
What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub?

Equally valid
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:26 pm to
The only people who should care about the pardon are Arizona residents? Why?

And if that's the case, shouldn't I apply that same logic to people affected by Harvey? The only people who should care are Texas residents.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:30 pm to
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I love when peopke like yourself out just how stupid they actually are

Remember that time you bitched and whined about "the left" making animals use condoms?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Do you really think that a jury trial every time an order is disobeyed would be good for the system?
If I accuse you of a criminal offense, you respond with a request for a trial by your peers, I deny you that right, and instead sentence you to 6-months in jail, that is less abhorent here than it is in North Korea.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:31 pm to
Law and Order president*

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:45 pm to
Non sequitur e knight for your boy! Defend him!

You're so good at it! Defend this abortion of a thread
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:49 pm to
Nonsequitor? You're the one who brought up people outing how stupid they are. I was just reminding us of one of the many times you did just that.

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