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re: I’m so proud of Tennessee and their removal of racist voting practices

Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:12 pm to
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All votes are equal. Black votes are not any different than white votes. You are upset that black votes are not specifically grouped in ways to give them extra weight.



You once again evade that Memphis is spilt as much as possible to drown out their vote, there's no getting around that
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:12 pm to
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You know redistricting is based on politics. Admit it.

Which politics?
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:19 pm to
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You once again evade that Memphis is spilt as much as possible to drown out their vote, there's no getting around that

Why do you want black votes specifically grouped together to empower their voting power? Isn't that the exact same thing you're complaining about? It's just the flip side of the same coin.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:23 pm to
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Why do you want black votes specifically grouped together to empower their voting power? Isn't that the exact same thing you're complaining about?


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It's just the flip side of the same coin.


Well, at least you now admit that the TN legislature intentionally targeted black voters for disfavored treatment. Now back to your

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If you want to live in a "post racial" society, the first step is treating everyone equal, regardless of their skin color.


Tennessee isn't doing that with this map
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Well, at least you now admit that the TN legislature intentionally targeted black voters for disfavored treatment.


Can you tell me why intentionally targeting a racial group for favorable treatment is any more morally correct than targeting a racial group for disfavorable treatment?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Can you tell me why intentionally targeting a racial group for favorable treatment is any more morally correct than targeting a racial group for disfavorable treatment?


Morally it seems the same
It's a double edged sword both of those are happening here, splitting Memphis into as many districts as possible intentionally disfavors black voters while favoring white voters. The will of white voters will represent Memphis in congress.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 5:40 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:24 pm to
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The will of white voters will represent Memphis in congress.


The will of the majority will represent Memphis in Congress.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:31 pm to
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The will of the majority will represent Memphis in Congress.



Born from a district to produce a certain result, try all you might but you're not getting around that. Not acknowledging the reality of the situation reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills and honesty
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:52 pm to
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Born from a district to produce a certain result, try all you might but you're not getting around that.

But that's EXACTLY what you want...
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:54 pm to
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Memphis is spilt as much as possible to drown out their vote


Can you explain??

Are black people a block? Are they not individuals that vote per their own independent thought? WTF are you saying?

Are you saying other races vote opposite of said black block? Is that what's drowning out their vote somehow?
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 7:56 pm
Posted by ljhog
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:55 pm to
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the representative for black voters

he goin after him some Kentucky fried
Posted by Rip Torner
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:58 pm to
Good
Posted by Whodat4300
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:04 pm to
Love my state!
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:33 pm to
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The will of the majority will represent Memphis in Congress.


Born from a district to produce a certain result, try all you might but you're not getting around that. Not acknowledging the reality of the situation reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills and honesty


Shouldn't the best, most qualified, most quality candidate be the one who wins the district regardless of R or D, regardless of the color of the voters, regardless of the color of the candidate?

Our whole system is built on the voters electing the most qualified and suitable candidate to represent them. NOT the candidate that happens to share the same skin color or same party as them regardless of the candidates' merit.

If a Dem candidate is the better representation for any of those districts and they prove as much, they will be elected. Same with a Republican candidate.

You're arguing for tipping the scales solely on the basis of the race of the constituents, which is both anti-American and antidemocratic (and also a little racist). But not surprising from you
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 1:40 am to
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Born from a district to produce a certain result, try all you might but you're not getting around that. Not acknowledging the reality of the situation reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills and honesty


What a load of horse shite

The districts are drawn to help Republicans, just like New England has ZERO districts that Republican can win and CA has had about +12 de, districts compared to their vote split and they have been that way for at least 20 years.

To single out gerrymandered "black" districts like they are a special case is racist on its surface.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:09 am to
Well you are debating someone who tends to make excuses for a certain skin color
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:30 am to
Ryan Clark wants to mess with the Vols...and other SEC teams. He apparently doesn't realize the districts were not gerrymandered to block black representation.

This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 7:34 am
Posted by ole man
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:32 am to
When did it become a thing where the minority rule
Posted by dat yat
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:49 am to
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You once again evade that Memphis is spilt as much as possible to drown out their vote, there's no getting around that


Splitting a city like that can cut both ways. Look at Minnesota; Minny/St.P is split 6 ways and all of those districts vote Democrat because the rural conservatives are outnumbered and diluted my the big city.
Nobody ever complained for the poor rural conservatives of Minnesota.

I think BOTH states are wrong and counties, especially large counties, should comprise district borders as much as possible.

Louisiana new/proposed district did this well. We should end up with 4 solid reds and two competitive purples.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:07 am to
Now do Chicago. Or Virginia trying to split Fairfax County into 3 districts. Or the New England states that are all 40+% Republican and have zero Republican representatives in Congress
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