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re: I'm pretty liberal, but eff that caravan
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:46 am to BayouBlitz
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:46 am to BayouBlitz
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I believe a true liberal wants to give the oppressed a chance. Once the caravan engaged in violence with Mexican residents, everything changed. Which is unfortunate for the peaceful families in that caravan.
Now we are expected to accept a horde, of which some have proven to be violent? And now the leaders refuse to go to shelters. with beds and food, because the shelters have curfews? And they call these "jails?"
They are getting awful picky about their living arrangements, having come from oppressive living conditions.
Again, I'm sure there are some great people in that caravan, who have been misled and risked everything to better the lives of their families. That's the real shame here.
Not a lot to disagree with here. That may surprise you.
We send missionaries all across the globe to try and help some of the poorest and "oppressed" on the planet.
The sad part is that while you want to help them all you just can't. There isn't enough time or resources to do it.
We are very lucky to call this place home and I hope we don't make mistakes that will ruin what we have because without us the world is worse off.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 11:58 am to TBoy
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Once you separate the propaganda
Propaganda? Laws aren’t propaganda. And you aren’t the authority on our countries charity and goodwill, you are however an authority on bleeding hearts and emotional decisions over tactical ones. There are thousands of people trying to gain citizenship the correct way, and these “asylum” seekers are spitting in their faces.
The propaganda is that conservatives hate immigrants. The truth is conservatives hate illegal immigrants because they take money directly out of tax payers wallets.
Build the mother fricking wall and kill every bastard that illegally comes over, I bet after the first few days it would be a non issue.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:39 pm to Wtodd
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you have to turn in your lib card.......you know bc you're not inclusive now.....rules are rules
Nah he needs to turn in his lib card because he doesn’t see that the end justifies the means. The liberal end goal is more Dem voters. That is it.
So a lib not supporting this caravan goes against the core of the liberal agenda - acquiring more weak minded voters by any means necessary.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:43 pm to TBoy
quote:all the liberals want is for them to break into the country, squirt out some kids so they can get in the welfare system, and then indoctrinate the kids in the public school system to vote for them. If they manage to do some illegal voting along the way that benefits the Dems that's a bonus. Don't act like it's anything else
All the "liberals" want is for the law to be followed and applied fairly.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:46 pm to narddogg81
That is exactly what "centrist" TBoy wants, he's just too much of a pussy to say it.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:48 pm to TBoy
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People present themselves at the border everyday seeking asylum. All the "liberals" want is for the law to be followed and applied fairly. Turning everyone away without considering their applications is not following the law. Putting them in barbed wire cages is not following the law.
People do present themselves every day. Of course, the most appropriate way would be for them to present themselves at the US Consulate or Embassy closest to where they live. That would save everyone a lot of time and trouble.
Now, there are 330 ports of entry from Mexico into the United States. There may be dozens of US employees working those entry points. If 15,000 people show up at one of those entry points, how are a few dozen people supposed to detain them? Sending the military down there and building tent cities was absolutely the right thing to do, but it cost us 10's of millions of dollars to do this. I think the whole caravan thing is a really crappy way to do this, and we not be sympathetic to anybody who tries to slide by using the caravan as cover. If anything, we should be more strict in reviewing the cases, and hold them in the tent city as long as it takes. We should also let them know that there are other options where they won't be detained for many weeks, and their chances of getting asylum are better.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:51 pm to TBoy
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All the "liberals" want is for the law to be followed and applied fairly.
Good lord, man.
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