re: I’m not an ‘election denier’ but there is one thing that is disturbing

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Proving irregularities is easy. Proving fraud on a scale of thousands is tougher.

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Which is made even more difficult when no one is deemed to have legal standing to bring a full-scale investigation into irregularities (at least enough to not be blocked like in Maricopa County). There were states which broke their own laws by allowing the mass mailing of ballots but no one has been deemed to have enough standing to take them to court (at least, no one interested enough in the issue). To add to that a little, the major media outlets even avoid investigating even the most obvious path for potential large-scale fraud: ballot harvesting (and then that combined with mass-mailed ballots).

The few times any group has tried to deeply investigate this, they come up with far more questions and smoke than solid answers.

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But mail in voting and early write in voting has opened up opportunities that question the integrity of the system. When you vote in person there are people that witness your vote and they validate your vote at the same time. This is being lost and it is definitely open for fraud.

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Yet where is our media investigating this? They largely bought into the OMB narrative, which included(s) things like downplaying (or outright ignoring) the many Biden issues (Hunter, his laptop, Ashley's diary, Joe's admitting to extorting Ukraine with US funds, influence peddling, Joe's mental lapses, etc). Hell, they've been absolutely apoplectic about Musk acquiring Twitter because of what he may expose (re: government using/pressuring social media to silence critics).

When looking objectively at the big picture, one which encompasses all the points I've outlined above, it's hard to say there wasn't any sort of widespread actions intended to fraudulently impact the election and that a majority of it wasn't pushed in favor of Democrats. We can't fairly assess the depth of the damage done (ie: votes changed or fraudulent votes cast) due to these because, again, there is no strong, government will to investigate this objectively.

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Most secure election ever went to well no widespread fraud.

Well whats widespread? every state? or just a few counties?


Same with vaccines....

100% safe and effective. Well weve had breakthrough infections and yeah maybe not everyone should take it.

But you are still a domestic terrorist.

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Nice deconstruction of THE Scripting, plausible-deniability loopholing...AND demonizing those who dare question any of the charade.

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You're allowing them to control the language.

I remember "election deniers" as far back as 2000, and there's a fricking montage of prominent democrats denying Trump's 2016 election. Nobody called them "election deniers".

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Slam-Dunk

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Which states did that?

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Wisconsin, for one. LINK

TL;DR on this is that ballot mailboxes for 2020 were placed illegally, in actual disregard for the law.

Interestingly...



Pennsylvania's Supreme Court literally created new legislation by ruling that even mailed ballots without stamped postal dates which arrived late (ie: after the final acceptance date allowed by law) should be counted as properly dated and mailed on time.

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In its ruling, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court said that ballots could be counted if they were received by 5 p.m. Nov. 6, as long as they were mailed by Election Day, Nov. 3. It also said that ballots without a postmark would "be presumed to have been mailed by Election Day" unless there was strong evidence to the contrary.

Before this year, the state required absentee ballots to be received by Election Day. But Democrats pushed for the extension because of concerns that postal delays would disenfranchise some of the millions of Pennsylvania voters who are expected to cast their ballots by mail this year because of the pandemic.

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State law at the time was to allow ballots until 5pm on the Friday after the election (which was 11/05) but the state SC somehow had some mystical power to extend that to some time outside the legislated scope.

Those are simply two right off the top of my head. You can also look at Maricopa County, AZ (as I referenced) where they flat-out refused court orders to turn over devices and materials and allowed alterations of voting machines (against state election laws).

The information is out there, you just have to look for it (which underscores the issue of the media ignoring/downplaying it that I mentioned earlier).

They don’t need widespread fraud.

That’s the secret sauce.

Yes.

No doubt in my mind that the election was stolen on many levels. (Including suppressing the Biden corruption)

No way “they” would allow Trump to win again.



The “yes there was fraud and cheating, but not enough to swing the election” is outrageous


And it seems most people accept that BS