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re: I'm no longer a Liberal, Democrat, Progressive, whatever

Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:15 pm to
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Well this just isn't supported by facts at all.


you need to educate yourself about LBJ's great society

blacks born without a father pre LBJ great society in 1964 were 7%!

post great society 2014? 73%!

keep being a dumbass here

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:37 pm to
More People Are Single

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Big government and feminism has destroyed the black family. The government came to black women and said that if you kick the black man out of the house, we will give you all of the benefits you need. This was in the 70s. They have been happily married every since. The Democratic party wont allow this marriage to end. They need votes from black women. In the 30s and 40s, black americans had a higher marriage rate than white americans. It wasnt until the late 60s and early 70s when welfare was introduced where a requirement was no man needed to be in the home.


What a crock of horseshite.

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The government came to black women and said that if you kick the black man out of the house, we will give you all of the benefits you need.


Dumbest part of your post. So not only are you blaming the government but now women kicked those black men out of their homes so they can start a new relationship with the government. Those poor guys were wanting to be a part of their family until somehow the women in the government made them forget entirely about their responsibilities as a father. Sure.

It's funny you mention the sixties in the seventies because not only where we putting drugs in black neighborhoods but we were also sending a lot of them off to Vietnam

"African-Americans also complained that they were disproportionately drafted, assigned to combat units and killed in Vietnam. Statistics from the first three years of the war support these complaints. African-Americans represented approximately 11 percent of the civilian population. Yet in 1967, they represented 16.3 percent of all draftees and 23 percent of all combat troops in Vietnam. In 1965, African-Americans accounted for nearly 25 percent of all combat deaths in Vietnam."

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:50 pm to
Another moron who knows nothing about the damage LBJS great society did to black people and continues to do. Keep ur head up ur arse.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:56 pm to
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blacks born without a father pre LBJ great society in 1964 were 7%!

post great society 2014? 73%!

keep being a dumbass here


1964.. 7%.. the 'war on drugs' ~1971. over the next three decades the incarceration rate increased from 190/100,000 people to ~920/100,000 people.




Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37748 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 11:59 pm to
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Yet in 1967, they represented 16.3 percent of all draftees and 23 percent of all combat troops in Vietnam.


You.... uh....


Do know how the draft worked.....



Right?




I’ll give you a hint..... race had absolutely ZERO to do with what day you were born on. And then, later on, race had ZERO to do with your initials.


So pray tell. How the frick is the draft racist against blacks
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 12:02 am
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13890 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:48 am to
That is pretty much a textbook white elitist liberal response. Ebb stuck the landing.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:52 am to
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No my friend what we have is an Incel.....either black or white but my moneys on white who can’t get laid and it’s everyones fault but his own.

He does sound angry like the guy in Canada who hated women and ran over the pedestrians with a van.

I don't know what validation he's seeking here by attacking Black women due to his failed attempts at dating them. Does he think the posters here are going to help his relationships? I doubt they'll introduce their daughters/ sisters.


Calling women children 'bastards' is sure to endear him to the ladies
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19881 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:54 am to
I am still trying to figure out how the draft is racist.....now an ability of get a deferral is something different but I would submit it is a socioeconomic bias and not a racial bias though.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15091 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:26 am to
Kanye is that you?

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37748 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:20 am to
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am still trying to figure out how the draft is racist.


Yeah. Me too. I’m really confused on how randomly selecting date of births out of a jar could possibly be racist.

But hey. It’s ebb. So nothing that sky screamer says makes a lick of sense
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17055 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:27 pm to
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A practice that has since been abolished.
Yes, it was finally abolished in the 70s. Some of the lawsuits weren't decided until the mid 80s.

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Also, it's not about white folks' approval--it's about two parent households being a vital component of a demographic's socioeconomic survival. That applies to blacks, whites, everyone.


The politics of respectability are about pleasing white folks. This is why Rosa Parks was hand-picked to be the aggrieved back-of-the-bus rider instead of some of the other ladies who it happened to before.

Also, almost all measures of black well-being have improved over the past 25 years (most notably, the level of violence and teen pregnancy) even as "two parent households" haven't increased. I'm dubious about the direct connection always casually drawn.

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The minute a black person says they're not (or no longer) a leftist, one of the first plays by leftists of all stripes (or racists in general in the case of the so-called "alt-right") is to assert that such convictions are only born of the desire to curry favor from white people.


I think you've missed my point. I had no intention at all to assert that the OP was trying to curry favor with whites. I'm just saying that blaming it on 2-parent households misses the mark. Back during the supposedly halcyon days of the mid-century that whites are always referring to (when blacks were supposedly doing so much better family-wise), they suffered punishing abuse at the hands of whites and the white-dominated system.

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This is not a factual statement. Blacks weren't "punished" for maintaining nuclear families


They were not rewarded for it.

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Abysmal argument. I urge you to re-couch your rebuttal. The way you have chosen to couch it is not intellectually tenable.


Just because you say so? Nah. Handing literally trillions of wealth to one group while intentionally and outright denying it to another is WAY more devastating than single moms.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:07 pm to
I’m interested to hear the response here. How exactly WAS the draft racist?

It was certainly sexist. Not nearly enough women died in Vietnam to be considered equal.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2401 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:11 pm to
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In the 30s and 40s, black americans had a higher marriage rate than white americans. It wasnt until the late 60s and early 70s when welfare was introduced where a requirement was no man needed to be in the home


An absolute fact that the Democratic Party has failed to take account for, or even recognize.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89353 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:06 pm to
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This is not a factual statement. Blacks weren't "punished" for maintaining nuclear families. We were oppressed because the civil rights movement had yet to occur.



this young black guy gets it
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