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re: I'm never having kids. All my Gen Z friends agree — we won't be parents in a world .....

Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Spending all your time and money on yourself is the definition of selfish.


There are other people in the world to spend your time and money on besides children.

The notion that someone not wanting to have children makes them selfish is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:57 pm to
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The notion that someone not wanting to have children makes them selfish is ridiculous.


Thats basically our only purpose on earth.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35181 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:57 pm to
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The notion that someone not wanting to have children makes them selfish is ridiculous.


No it’s most definitely not.

Every adult I know without kids is the most selfish and self absorbed adult I know.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:00 pm to
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No it’s most definitely not.

Every adult I know without kids is the most selfish and self absorbed adult I know.


So because you're a bad judge of character when it comes to choosing your friends, every single non-parent on the planet is a selfish arse hole?

Aight bruh
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35181 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:06 pm to
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So because you're a bad judge of character when it comes to choosing your friends, every single non-parent on the planet is a selfish arse hole? Aight bruh


You seem to be taking this very personally.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33107 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Every adult I know without kids is the most selfish and self absorbed adult I know.

Well at least they aren’t reproducing.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:10 pm to
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Well at least they aren’t reproducing

That's the way I look at it. If you don't want kids, please don't have kids.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:11 pm to
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You seem to be taking this very personally.



Trying to convince himself..
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Every adult I know without kids is the most selfish and self absorbed adult I know.


Same but I think that’s to be expected. If your whole world/life revolved around you, you’re bound to be selfish and self-absorbed.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35181 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:23 pm to
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Same but I think that’s to be expected. If your whole world/life revolved around you, you’re bound to be selfish and self-absorbed.


Exactly. I didn’t really think it was that provocative a statement. Seemed like common sense to me.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:43 pm to
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You parents were part of the Silent Generation (Boomers were from 1946-64)


I stand corrected. Close enough for this discussion, though, don't you think?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:48 pm to
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The notion that someone not wanting to have children makes them selfish is ridiculous.


I agree that per se that's not necessarily selfish (it depends on why they aren't having children), I will say that having children is the natural mechanism that teaches the vast, vast majority of people that the world doesn't revolve around them.

Not the only way that can be discovered, of course, but it's a very big developmental stage IMO.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:58 pm to
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You seem to be taking this very personally.


Not at all. I'm open to having children.

I just find it highly arrogant and condescending for parents to think individuals who don't want to have children are somehow lesser people.

Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:00 pm to
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are somehow lesser people.

They are. Literally. Whatever your beliefs, their line ends and mine continues.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6806 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:00 pm to
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economy and the climate crisis

This is because the people that she votes for are pushing it so hard
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:00 pm to
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Not at all. I'm open to having children.


You will or you will not. Economic conditions or climate change will have nothing to do with it.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35881 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:07 pm to
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The issue is were raising shitty kids that have absolutely no confidence in themselves.

Yes, Gen X was a generation of totally awful parents. Maybe worst ever. People with children born between ~1996ish and 2006 or so did a completely horrendous job at the societal level.

What’s worse is that it was obvious while it was happening.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35181 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I just find it highly arrogant and condescending for parents to think individuals who don't want to have children are somehow lesser people.


I think whats arrogant and condescending is for people to think they can shrug off a biological necessity like reproduction and think you will be as satisfied with your existence as you are supposed to be. Whats arrogant and condescending is to think you are somehow above fulfilling a biological requirement that is the basic driver of literally every organism on earth. T
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35881 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:08 pm to
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I just find it highly arrogant and condescending for parents to think individuals who don't want to have children are somehow lesser people.

You are a lesser person if that is your choice. Having children is literally the only reason you exist. It’s your body’s only actual purpose.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:39 pm to
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You are a lesser person if that is your choice. Having children is literally the only reason you exist. It’s your body’s only actual purpose.


I'm about to step into a pile on this one, but I don't think Mother Theresa was selfish or a lesser person because she didn't have children.

Like I said above, it depends on what your reasons are.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 2:40 pm
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