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re: I'm in Birmingham, AL for a conference on opioids

Posted on 8/10/18 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 2:59 pm to
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What a straw man, argument. You're really stupid.


I presented your argument only slightly more stupidly than you presented it. Sorry if that was unfair.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:20 pm to
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I presented your argument only slightly more stupidly than you presented it. Sorry if that was unfair.


You're embarrassing. I genuinely feel bad for you.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:46 pm to
It’s apparent you don’t know shite about what you’re talking about. So I’m not overly concerned with your opinion.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:54 pm to
While you are there could you plant some MJ around the Roll Tide Administration Bldg....

We need some two year suspensions like the NCAA laid on the Tigers......

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:18 pm to
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It’s apparent you don’t know shite about what you’re talking about. So I’m not overly concerned with your opinion.


Just stop.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53647 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:36 pm to
Do you think you could score me some opoids?
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:42 pm to
Marijuana makes your pain worse. It seems to help make your stomach work better (like helping with hangovers) but if you have a hurt arm smoking weed will make it hurt more.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:45 pm to
You can’t compare the two at all.

All you have to do is search “marijuana makes pain worse” and you will find scientific studies, articles, even forum posts on marijuana websites talking about it.

Opiates are a pain killer but they are deadly. I say the solution is to make the opiates completely monitored. Don’t even give patients access, just give it to them when they ask and don’t let them leave the hospital until the effects have worn off.

Marijuana, which doesn’t even help with pain, is not the solution.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:46 pm to
Because it’s easier to eat something than smoke it and you get way more high from eating weed than smoking it?
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:48 pm to
That’s the joke dude
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6646 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Haven't read through the middle part of this thread yet from where we left off last night, but how did the presentation go?


Wasn't booed off stage, but it's an uphill battle.
Did have several people (doctors) asking me about research and wanting more info. But, the DEA reps and US Attorney wanted nothing to do with me afterwards when I tried to speak with them.

There is a Drug Education Council conference in OB in Oct, and while I have been begging them for years to have a forum to no real response, I'm going to stroll in there and bring some noise.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:08 pm to
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C) Decriminalizing all drugs
No offense, but that's insane.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37738 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:11 pm to
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offense, but that's insane.


Why? If someone wants to shoot heroin, knowing exactly what it leads to, then we should not only allow it, but encourage it.

Cleanse the gene pool. Let Darwin do his work. It should be illegal to give narcan to those who are overdosing. LET. THEM. DIE.

The world is better off without them.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6646 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:16 pm to
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tigerpawl


No. Insanity is continuing our failed drug policies for another 40 years, expecting prohibition to win.
If interested, please look up Portugal Drug Policy. They decriminalized all drugs in 2001, and the results are not what you would seemingly expect.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Statistics compiled by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA) indicate that between 2001 and 2007, lifetime prevalence rates for cannabis, cocaine, amphetamines, ecstasy, and LSD have risen for the Portuguese general population (ages 15-64) and for the 15-34 age group.


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Past-month prevalence figures show increases from 2001 to 2007 in cocaine and LSD use in the Portuguese general population as well as increases in cannabis, cocaine, and amphetamine use in the 15-34 age group.


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Drug-induced deaths, which decreased in Portugal from 369 in 1999 to 152 in 2003, climbed to 314 in 2007 – a number significantly higher than the 280 deaths recorded when decriminalization started in 2001.


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Despite Cato’s assertion that increases in lifetime prevalence levels among the general population are “virtually inevitable in every nation,” EMCDDA data indicate that other countries, including Spain, have been able to achieve decreases in lifetime prevalence rates for cannabis and ecstasy use between 2003 and 2008.


LINK
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:48 pm to
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tigerpawl

quote:

No. Insanity is continuing our failed drug policies for another 40 years, expecting prohibition to win.
If interested, please look up Portugal Drug Policy. They decriminalized all drugs in 2001, and the results are not what you would seemingly expect.
It is insane - and defies logic. To deny the deterrent value of criminal consequences is poppycock. You're taking one step closer to anarchy. Not buying it.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6646 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:49 pm to
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the808bass


Lol. Want to link something from this decade?
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6646 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:51 pm to
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tigerpawl

Ok.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:52 pm to
Now you’re just being disingenuous.
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