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Ignoring the Q people and fanatics, I think most of the Trumpers want the best for America

Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:42 pm
Working on North Korea, Iran, Tax Cuts, Healthcare, and Immigration.

I think those are all areas where there’s a good faith effort to find policy and strategy that leads to improving the country. I disagree with how the admin is executing those things, but there are real discussions to be had.

I also think outside of Sanders, Stein, et al, there is a very robust side of the left that is interested in policy and discussions of those issues.

Screaming about millionaires and billionaires or locking up Hillary or Obama don’t do us a lot of good. Not in terms of making progress on issues or in having policy discussions.

It’d be nice to get back to discussions on why this or that tax code works best; which approach to various foreign states is most efficacious.

Anyone up for trying that? Normal discussion between liberals and conservatives on the merits of policy?
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:43 pm to
You have a criminal as your Avatar. Just thought you should know
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
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24626 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:43 pm to
Would be great if y'all would board the train and help rather than sit back and throw shite.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:43 pm to
MELT
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24694 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:44 pm to
Doubtful.

We can't even agree that middle class tax cuts are a good thing. Or that low unemployment is a good thing these days.

You people hate America, so screw you.
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:44 pm to
You should aim this at the #resist crowd. They are the ones that don’t want to actually discuss issues because it may give trump a win.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Screaming about millionaires and billionaires or locking up Hillary or Obama don’t do us a lot of good. Not in terms of making progress on issues or in having policy discussions.

It’d be nice to get back to discussions on why this or that tax code works best
Interesting that policy is now where you want to focus since it's now the Dems that are being outed for their corruption.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73283 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:44 pm to
Did you see the video of your boy Ellison dressed up like Trump signing about Putin

Wake us up when tLeft grows up and wants to have a real convo.

Drain the swamp and raise taxes? Like wtf
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:44 pm to
With you? Go piss up a rope while climbing it upside down.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Ignoring the Q people and fanatics
Why? We want the best for America, too.

I'd wager most everyone in this country wants what is best for America. We just disagree on the definition of "best".
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:46 pm to
You're probably going to jail, Hillary
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43980 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Anyone up for trying that? Normal discussion between liberals and conservatives on the merits of policy?

I’m always up for that.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38239 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:47 pm to
This is what’s called the bargaining stage.

But don’t worry. Your grief is almost gone.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24495 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Working on North Korea, Iran, Tax Cuts, Healthcare, and Immigration.

I think those are all areas where there’s a good faith effort to find policy and strategy that leads to improving the country. I disagree with how the admin is executing those things, but there are real discussions to be had.

I also think outside of Sanders, Stein, et al, there is a very robust side of the left that is interested in policy and discussions of those issues.

Screaming about millionaires and billionaires or locking up Hillary or Obama don’t do us a lot of good. Not in terms of making progress on issues or in having policy discussions.

It’d be nice to get back to discussions on why this or that tax code works best; which approach to various foreign states is most efficacious.

Anyone up for trying that? Normal discussion between liberals and conservatives on the merits of policy?






sounds like a loser pleading for the losing to stop.









Nope! Keep on losing
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:48 pm to
I’m fine with Trump having a win, depending on what the definition of “win” is. If it’s a win for him personally and politically that doesn’t advance American interests, I’m not a fan. If it’s a win that the country benefits from, or helps Americans, he deserves credit.

The release of the hostages is one thing all reasonable people can see as objectively good. My concern about it is that making the return of hostages in the way it was done sets a table for future hostages: Donald Trump very much wants a win on hostages. I’m concerned that it increases the value of hostages, at least to enemies.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17451 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:49 pm to
Just here to say frick the OP...I am a Q person and FT can eat a dick.
Posted by RentSeekAndDestroy
Member since Mar 2018
602 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:49 pm to
Let’s hold hands and discuss tax codes and gdp. Boomer.txt
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:50 pm to
I never wanted Keith Ellison to have any more of a role than as a duly elected congressman. I’m not interested in his opinions, I don’t care what his personal goals are, and I hope he loses to a reasonable democrat as soon as possible.
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2022 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:51 pm to
how about prosecuting and locking up criminals, is that ok with you?
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:53 pm to
I agree. But broadly, we all want everyone to have access to healthcare that’s affordable and of some degree above average quality. We want people to be able to buy that new car and invest in that new business.

It’s not as though we’re arguing from one side or another that healthcare should suck, and on the other that it should be good.
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