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re: If your life depends on the Fed rates, perhaps you should ask mommy for more allowance

Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18731 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:07 pm to
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One friggin point is not gonna change your life, and if it is, perhaps you should re-evaluate your life. The interest rates and quantitative tightening reduced double digit inflation....ya want that back?????? A few months off the crack pipe and you want right back on it??? The BBB is about to drop trillions back in the economy, along with trillions of offshore investment. Perhaps it might be prudent to hold the course before we pick up the pipe......


I don’t need anymore money and 1 point won’t do shite. I’m just used to my old 2.6% interest rate and 6.35% sucks balls. I’m paying 43k a year in just interest and I would like for that to be less.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37127 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:11 pm to
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One friggin point is not gonna change your life, and if it is, perhaps you should re-evaluate your life.

I am no Fed expert but have they ever gone a full point at one time?
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
23910 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:11 pm to
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My first mortgage was at 8%. The current 6.5% would have been a gift.



And, between when you bought a house and now, housing prices have exponentially increased far beyond inflation rates. That house you bought at 8% was far more affordable than anything you can buy now at 7%.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21467 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:15 pm to
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No one is buying more of our debt by lowering rates. Inflation will increase because of this and the things you mentioned.
Housing is so inflated


Lowering the rate 1% may not be have as much impact as you would like to see, but combined with the tariffs, the trillions of committed foreign investments, an increase of domestic business expansion due to deregulation all together dors have an impressive impact.
Along with spending cuts.
I believe we'll see bigger spending cuts in the future once the above mentioned factors begin to take hold.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:16 pm to
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One friggin point is not gonna change your life, and if it is, perhaps you should re-evaluate your life.


Wrong. I’m in the investment business. This delay is literally costing me 100s of thousands of dollars.

I don’t need more allowance I need to either see the fed fulfill its duties in a non-political way or be abolished.


At this point, abolishment seems the direction to go.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2374 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:17 pm to
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And, between when you bought a house and now, housing prices have exponentially increased far beyond inflation rates.


Excellent point. Which is why I would like to see interest rates remain stabilized at normal historical levels and have inflated asset prices adjust to something more sustainable.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37127 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:58 pm to
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My first mortgage was at 8%. The current 6.5% would have been a gift.
My first was 11.5 %- 2 under prime for bond money for first time home buyers.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11866 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:01 pm to
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The interest rates and quantitative tightening reduced double digit inflation


Wrong although your premise is correct
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23493 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:02 pm to
Is there anyway for those of you that don’t understand rates and associated impact of a point with respect to cost of money, capital investments, etc…. To get together in a single thread of dumbassery??

Would be easier for the rest of us to keep an eye on you guys.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21825 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:08 pm to
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And, between when you bought a house and now, housing prices have exponentially increased far beyond inflation rates. That house you bought at 8% was far more affordable than anything you can buy now at 7%.

The house was far more affordable back then because, in part, it was substantially smaller and had few of the features in comparison to the home you're looking to buy now. It's hard to find, and when found you question the quality of the work, but go look at an analysis of real home prices over the last 50 years where they the home and dollar are held constant. Things aren't nearly as different today as most think.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:09 pm to
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My first mortgage was at 8%. The current 6.5% would have been a gift.
oh yeah, what size home and what was the price you paid?
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:09 pm to
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My first was 11.5 %- 2 under prime for bond money for first time home buyers.
way back when homes cost 80k
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23910 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:09 pm to
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Which is why I would like to see interest rates remain stabilized at normal historical levels and have inflated asset prices adjust to something more sustainable.


So basically, you’re fine without almost an entire generation being unable to afford a house until things level off?

It’s okay if you are, but perhaps we should think about all the ramifications of that before we just decide to do it.

For instance, how long will this last? What effect will it have on the middle class? What will be the overall effect on the economy? What about the rental market and resale market?

it could be a matter of these people having to wait until they’re in their 50s or 60s to inherit their parents homes until they can have a home of their own.

Also, will many current homeowners be underwater on their homes as they’re paying them off while the market “corrects" itself.

I don’t know the answer. However, it would seem that a far simpler solution would be to at least get the rates somewhere between 4-5% over the next year or so before we take such drastic actions as taking a number of years to let the market "correct itself." However, I would think that letting the interest rates go back down to the 2–3% range would completely destroy any correction that you are envisioning.

Right now, I just think Powell is either a TDS-infected democrat or politicized RINO who believes that lowering their interest rate will help Trump and the “Trump economy.“ Obviously unless we can get some emails or other evidence, there’s no actual or direct "proof” of this. However, the fact that this deep state actor is spending $2.5-3 billion to renovate an already existing building stinks to high fricking heaven and tells me that something is extremely wrong (and political) with the way Powell is running the Fed.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5662 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:10 pm to
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One friggin point is not gonna change your life, and if it is, perhaps you should re-evaluate your life.

The interest rates and quantitative tightening reduced double digit inflation....ya want that back??????

A few months off the crack pipe and you want right back on it???

The BBB is about to drop trillions back in the economy, along with trillions of offshore investment. Perhaps it might be prudent to hold the course before we pick up the pipe......




You're absolutely right cuck. Inflation is transitory so we only cut rates when we see an uptick...
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
981 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:11 pm to
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Tell that to the millions of young couples who can’t afford to buy a fricking home, a-hole!
Near-zero interest rates caused that!!!! Lowering rates just re-inflates the historic bubble even higher. Housing prices need to drop 30-50% and the only way that happens is for HIGH interest rates to choke the lending market. If nobody can get $400k loans for $200k houses any more the price will have to fall back down to a level banks will loan for.

I hate it for the people who believe they are rich because of a dumb imaginary number they put on their house but it's been obvious for 15 years that this day would eventually come.

This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1025 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:11 pm to
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But a $100k 30 mortgage at 7% interest rate: $665.30 per month. $100k 30 mortgage at 6% interest rate: $599.55 per month. 5% interest rate: $536.82 per month 4% interest rate: $477.42 per month 3% interest rate: $421.60 per month


Who is getting a 100k mortgage? Median home is around 420k.

420k mortgage:

7% is $2,794
6% is $2,518
5% is $2,255
4% is $2,005
3% is $1,771
2% is $1,552

Tremendous difference. Don’t pretend that the low mortgage rates weren’t a massive fricking handout, at the expense of the middle class and younger generations.

I think the there should be a highly restricted, ultra low interest loan for people who don’t own real property and meet certain income requirements.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:16 pm to
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Tremendous difference. Don’t pretend that the low mortgage rates weren’t a massive fricking handout, at the expense of the middle class and younger generations.
that just a bad take my guy. The middle class and younger generations also took advantage of those low interest rates.

Low interest rates were great for everyone.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21825 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:18 pm to
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So basically, you’re fine without almost an entire generation being unable to afford a house until things level off?


I don’t know the answer. However, it would seem that a far simpler solution would be to at least get the rates somewhere between 4-5% over the next year or so before we take such drastic actions as taking a number of years to let the market "correct itself."

Could part of the answer to help this generation that's finding it difficult to buy their first house be to build 1300 sq ft homes with a carport, linoleum flooring, and no bells/whistles? That would definitely help with the challenge of first time home buying affordability.
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
981 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Low interest rates were great for everyone.
Only the economic illiterate. .
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38698 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:23 pm to
I sell those crowns in the back of those impalas.

I need folks to buy more crowns.


Lower the rate.
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