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If your argument to help black Americans doesn't start and end with ending the WOD

Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:54 pm
then you have no real point to make

there is one legitimate and identifiable institution that is destroying the black community and it's the War on Drugs

any preacher, protester, or commentator who doesn't address this first, second, and last, has no real tactile plan to solve the problems of POC
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:55 pm to
Im all for making marijuana legal. After that I'd need some more convincing on a controlled distribution for the other drugs after that.

Heroin, cocaine and the like is something I probably prefer remain illegal.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:56 pm to
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then you have no real point to make


Are you talking about the Reagan 1980s war on drugs?

That's just gas on a fire that was already raging bro
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:56 pm to
All drugs or just stuff like weed? Crap like fent should never be legal IMO
Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:57 pm to
I think that is one large part of the problem.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:57 pm to
They should split the profits equally
Posted by Big12fan
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:58 pm to
Send your email to Beauregard. He's the dimwit.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:58 pm to
baloney

This is libertarian fools gold.

What % of black males are incarcerated?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:58 pm to
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All drugs or just stuff like weed? Crap like fent should never be legal IMO


Or heroin, cocaine, speed, the like...

I just think if you totally legalized everything that you'd without a doubt have people doing some hard drugs that wouldn't otherwise if the drugs were still illegal.

Marijuana has real measurable health benefits, and not in the form that most stoner dicks like to take their weed.

Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:58 pm to
I'd support the legalization of all drugs. Everyone of them as long as you end entitlements. You've always had alcoholics and drug attics. The difference was a hundred years ago you had to stay clean and sober long enough to be able to afford your next fix. If not, Darwinism ran its course. I don't want to see people sitting on their buts, not working and getting high but living off of EBT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:58 pm to
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I think that is one large part of the problem.

it's probably 75% or more of the problem

i mean as in an actual institution that is directly affecting the lives of POC in negative ways

i mean even the specific "police are killing POC" argument is literally pointing a finger at the WOD, b/c that's why there is so much interaction between the 2 populations (not to mention the driver in the violence associated with the black market drug industry, again, that escalates the interactions)
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:59 pm to
Yep. The war on drugs destroyed the black family and community to a large degree. Drugs (Heroin in paeticular) are now affecting lower class whites in an epidemic on par with the crack crisis, and we will see a similar cultural degradation among that group.

Ending the drug war would be beneficial to the nation as a whole. It would mitigate the overincarceration problem, it would hopefully stop the militarization of police, and hopefully it would change how we approach addiction.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:59 pm to
Letting drug dealers and users stay on the street isn’t solving the root cause of fatherless black children.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 7:59 pm to
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What % of black males are incarcerated?

the % of the black, male population that is in some form of the CJ system is insane. like 33-40%
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

there is one legitimate and identifiable institution that is destroying the black community and it's the single-parent family


Fixed
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

there is one legitimate and identifiable institution that is destroying the black community and it's the War on Drugs



For more than 40 years now, the war on drugs has failed in its mission. We are currently in the longest and most destructive war in American history.

The government uses five “schedules” to classify drugs according to three properties — “potential for abuse,” “accepted medical use” and potential to lead to “psychological or physical dependence.” Schedule I drugs, for example, are deemed by the DEA and the Food and Drug Administration to have a high potential for abuse, no accepted medical value and a high potential for dependence. This most serious category currently includes drugs like marijuana, LSD, psilocybin and MDMA.

However, concerning the four drugs I just mentioned, legitimate research conducted by third-parties and the government itself has consistently shown this classification system to be utterly spurious.

According to a 2010 British study published in the Lancet, these particular substances are actually some of the least harmful of all recreational drugs. Their impact on society and potential for addiction is miniscule compared with alcohol and tobacco — which, of course, are entirely legal.

On top of that, more evidence confirming the medical benefits of Schedule I drugs surfaces every day. LSD and psilocybin have proven effective in treating cluster headaches, a condition that affects one in 1,000 people and is so painful it has earned the nickname “suicide headache.” Research has also shown that MDMA can effectively treat post-traumatic stress disorder.

The real knife in the back is that this blatantly inaccurate system of classification is the legal justification for the state’s use of violence against its own people. According to 2011 statistics, more than half of all federal prisoners are serving sentences for drug-related offenses.

This, in addition to the fact that the United States incarcerates more people per capita than any other country and that a disproportionate number of these prisoners are black or Hispanic, provides sufficient grounds for charging the U.S. with crimes against humanity.

Particularly sickening is the fact that this prison-industrial complex is completely subsidized by John Q. Taxpayer. Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron estimates that state and federal governments spend more than $46 billion a year fighting the war on drugs.

And let’s not forget the obvious detail that making drugs illegal doesn’t get rid of drugs. Outlawing them simply creates an extremely lucrative black market, since criminal gangs derive the exclusive right to deal. The profitability of selling illegal drugs acts like a magnet that uproots hundreds of thousands of teens from their communities every year and lures them into a life of crime.

Even if we won this war on drugs, it still demonstrates what hypocrites we really are. Think about it for a second — what liberty is more fundamental than the right to explore and experiment with one’s own consciousness? If, while under the influence of drugs, I steal a car or assault someone, I’m going to be punished for that wrongdoing regardless. What, then, are the grounds for making drug use itself a crime? If the logic is that it’s the state’s duty to shape the moral conscience and worldview of its citizenry — well then, hello, 1984.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:02 pm to
i'm not saying that single parent families aren't negatively affecting POC, but (1) it's not an institution and (2) it's a SES issue more than a racial one
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:03 pm to
It's the lack of black family culture.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:04 pm to
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Letting drug dealers and users stay on the street isn’t solving the root cause of fatherless black children.


I have found this problem with family and dad's to be more of an allowable cultural issue within blacks lifestyle. Mom's and Aunts are encouraging such of young black males and accepting such from older black males. mrle.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 8:04 pm to
The incarceration rates for black people, Hispanic people and white people are all among the top ten in the world, if taken as individual populations. The war on drugs is predominantly class based, and as more poor whites fall into that cycle of poverty, and if the WOD continues, we will possibly see a further increase in the arrest rates of white people.
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