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re: If you vote for a democrat or a republican next election you are supporting this
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:10 pm to shel311
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:10 pm to shel311
quote:Oh, and if you think removing Ds and Rs somehow solves some of these problems, name them.........or one.
If I feel that the Ds and Rs can't solve those problems, then discussing the problems are not relevant to this discussion.
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:11 pm to AussieRock
quote:
I assume you believe this would result in certain things that currently are, no longer continuing and, that certain things that currently are not........coming into being.
So, out with it
Many people vote strictly on party line, no matter what, obviously. If having a letter next to your name didn't guarantee votes, how else could you get votes?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:14 pm to shel311
quote:What problem does this create?
Many people vote strictly on party line, no matter what, obviously. If having a letter next to your name didn't guarantee votes, how else could you get votes?
And, how does your idea solve it?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:14 pm to AussieRock
quote:
if you think removing Ds and Rs somehow solves some of these problems, name them.........or one.
removes the problem of giving full support to the biggest shill like Joe Biden.
you think Joe Biden is winning* any elections if the 2 party system doesn't exist?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:14 pm to AussieRock
quote:The funniest part about these replies is you previously said the same exact thing I did.
Your lack of understanding of elections doesn't compel me to play your silly game
If you feel your q vote matters even though it never swayed an election, then you are being illogical to talk about my vote being wasted. You're trying to have it both ways, that's not how it works.
quote:Except you're not, you're being 100% un-American and yet again, you do know that.
Because I'm correct.
quote:Quite the opposite, your votes are not wasted, that's the problem. You're the one that thinks only certain votes are wasted based on who was voted for.
You want to act as if ALL votes are wasted. Which is stupid
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:14 pm to sgallo3
Right, so the answer for Constitution loving Americans is to hand over all power of both federal and state government to marxist democrats. Brilliant!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:15 pm to AussieRock
quote:I mean, I literally disproved something you said was indisputable so you should ease up on thinking about you're outsmarting me here. You're not... at all.
I don't think you can articulate them.
I don't think you can even articulate ONE
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:16 pm to sgallo3
quote:
removes the problem of giving full support to the biggest shill like Joe Biden.
you think Joe Biden is winning* any elections if the 2 party system doesn't exist?
Does this mean someone just as bad as Biden couldn't win?
You're really good at pointing out specific things but making no real connections to any of your ideas.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:16 pm to AussieRock
quote:If having a letter next to your name didn't guarantee votes, what other ways could you get votes?
What problem does this create?
And, how does your idea solve it?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:17 pm to troyt37
quote:
Right, so the answer for Constitution loving Americans is to hand over all power of both federal and state government to marxist democrats. Brilliant!
no. I didn't say "republicans should vote for third parties" I said everyone should. that includes the morons voting for democrats. but continue to play the "but if i vote for someone else and they don't my guy will lose" card if it makes you feel justified.
someone has to be the first to make a move or we'll be in the same cycle forever. you can't not make a move because you are scared of what might happen. shite's pretty bad as it is so how much worse is it really gonna get?
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:17 pm to shel311
quote:Nope
The funniest part about these replies is you previously said the same exact thing I did.
quote:
If you feel your q vote matters even though it never swayed an election, then you are being illogical to talk about my vote being wasted.
If I have to explain stats and probabilities to you, then, we're gonna need another thread.
quote:
Except you're not, you're being 100% un-American and yet again, you do know that.
I'm still waiting for one of you geniuses to say what problem YOU see that you think your ideas address.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:18 pm to AussieRock
quote:You accused me of taking my ball and going home and then do exactly that
Does this mean someone just as bad as Biden couldn't win?
Well guys, we don't know if we'd get anyone better so let's just stick with what we got.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:19 pm to shel311
quote:
If having a letter next to your name didn't guarantee votes, what other ways could you get votes?
Are you aware of some magic want that's available that would somehow change the voting habits of not only you, me, and others.........but of EVERYONE?
If not, then what the frick are you even talking about. You might was well ask, "if H2O wasn't water, what would it be"
Um, it's water.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:19 pm to AussieRock
quote:I'm still waiting for you to concede about 5 things you've said that I've easily shown to be wrong but I ain't getting that.
I'm still waiting for one of you geniuses to say what problem YOU see that you think your ideas address.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:20 pm to AussieRock
quote:2nd time you've advocated the taking your ball and going home approach.
Are you aware of some magic want that's available that would somehow change the voting habits of not only you, me, and others.........but of EVERYONE?
If not, then what the frick are you even talking about. You might was well ask, "if H2O wasn't water, what would it be"
Um, it's water.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:20 pm to AussieRock
quote:
I'm still waiting for one of you geniuses to say what problem YOU see that you think your ideas address.
I already answered this.
remove Ds and Rs from the ballot and no chance in hell Biden wins any election.
the only reason Biden got any votes is because there was a letter next to his name. that letter comes with billions of dollars of support and they give it to whoever is willing to sell their soul for it.
why do you think it's right for every candidate on the ballot to have a letter next to their name. It's put there literally to appeal to the idiocracy. if you don't know who you are voting for without the letter next to their name why would you show up to vote anyway?
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:21 pm to shel311
quote:
Well guys, we don't know if we'd get anyone better so let's just stick with what we got.
No, you see, it was a question moron.
You're trying to sell a course of action. To sell that course of action, you should be able to, at the least, state a problem you believe it would correct AND, how your course of action might improve it.
Otherwise, I could say, "from now on, on election day, I'm going to play kickball before voting because the 2 party system pisses me off".
If you asked, "how does kickball help", I'd just say, well, there's a problem!!!!!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:22 pm to shel311
quote:Cute delusion
I'm still waiting for you to concede about 5 things you've said that I've easily shown to be wrong but I ain't getting that.
But, you two are the ones claiming to have some better course of action..........but, you can't say what that course of action addresses AT ALL!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:22 pm to AussieRock
quote:You're getting real upset here, you can relax. It's ok. It's a debate, it's ok for you to disagree with me and it's ok for me to disagree with you and act like adults.
No, you see, it was a question moron.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:23 pm to shel311
quote:Apparently, you can't read.
2nd time you've advocated the taking your ball and going home approach.
Neither post advocated anything. They asked YOU a question.
What problem do you perceive needs to be address AND, how does YOUR course of action address the problem?
Surely, you don't expect people to change how THEY do things when you can't even articulate an answer to something so basic.
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