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re: If you vote for a democrat or a republican next election you are supporting this
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:56 am to AussieRock
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:56 am to AussieRock
quote:You just proved my point right here.
Which is why my original answer to you said, "by yourself, not much, but as a group, absolutely" your vote can matter.
If more of the group followed my thinking, a shift could actually occur. The group stands down and follows your reasoning, nothing ever changes.
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:57 am to shel311
quote:There's no big picture to your approach. It's just self congratulations.
Again, you're thinking small scope, not big picture.
quote:You "Should" vote for whomever you like. I'm talking about effectiveness. If you want to piss away your vote, I support your right to do so but, you really can't bitch when it's pointed out.
The idea that people should only vote for 1 of the top 2 candidates is wholely un-American, I imagine you know that.
quote:I know
You're still completely whiffing on the point, which I've stated in every post. It has nothing to do with the I party being better.
It's mostly about you being able to act morally superior for doing nothing but doing it loudly.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:58 am to shel311
quote:Ya know, nether you nor the OP even have articulated what you want changed.
If more of the group followed my thinking, a shift could actually occur. The group stands down and follows your reasoning, nothing ever changes.
It's all platitudes.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:59 am to AussieRock
quote:Your vote and my vote are equally irrelevant so this point doesn't work.
You "Should" vote for whomever you like. I'm talking about effectiveness. If you want to piss away your vote, I support your right to do so but, you really can't bitch when it's pointed out.
Considering your post above about the collective, I feel you proved my point already.
quote:You're doing the exact same thing, FYI.
It's mostly about you being able to act morally superior for doing nothing but doing it loudly.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:59 am to sgallo3
quote:
dont be one of the dumbasses that thinks its throwing away a vote.
People like you are why we are in the situation we are in. Stop throwing away your vote.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:00 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:People who vote D or R are to blame. No one else.
People like you are why we are in the situation we are in. Stop throwing away your vote.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:01 pm to shel311
quote:False
Your vote and my vote are equally irrelevant
quote:Nah. I'm not the one taking my ball and going home.
You're doing the exact same thing, FYI.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:01 pm to sgallo3
Well, Bernie is an independent. So there's that. No thanks.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:02 pm to shel311
quote:To blame for what
People who vote D or R are to blame. No one else.
Be specific
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:04 pm to AussieRock
quote:When have you ever voted and if you didn't vote, the result would have changed? Your vote is no more relevant than mine.
False
quote:What are you even talking about? This doesn't make any sense.
Nah. I'm not the one taking my ball and going home.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:05 pm to AussieRock
quote:Are we doing a bit here where we pretend the current 3 party system is doing wonders for Americans?
To blame for what
Be specific
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:05 pm to shel311
quote:
When have you ever voted and if you didn't vote, the result would have changed? Your vote is no more relevant than mine.
False again
Playing the one vote game is just a display of ignorance on your part that I can't fix.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:05 pm to sgallo3
quote:
yes
And what would that be?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:06 pm to AussieRock
quote:
To blame for what
Be specific
to blame for them being in control/in office.
if noone voted for them they wouldn't be there. you can 1A and 1B all you want but the fact is if everyone did like me they wouldn't be in office
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:06 pm to shel311
quote:
Are we doing a bit here where we pretend the current 3 party system is doing wonders for Americans?
Nope
We have a shitstorm of problem. But, it would be helpful to know what it is you think some of the specific ones are.
It's pretty much impossible to evaluate "solutions" without knowing what the stated problem is.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:07 pm to AussieRock
quote:So tell me which election your vote changed if it's false?
False again
quote:I'm not the one initially claiming votes are wasted, you are. I'm responding that, which is an absurd and completely un-American take, again, you know that already though.
Playing the one vote game is just a display of ignorance on your part that I can't fix.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:07 pm to sgallo3
quote:
to blame for them being in control/in office.
if noone voted for them they wouldn't be there
I assume you believe this would result in certain things that currently are, no longer continuing and, that certain things that currently are not........coming into being.
So, out with it.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:08 pm to AussieRock
quote:If I feel that the Ds and Rs can't solve those problems, then discussing the problems are not relevant to this discussion.
We have a shitstorm of problem. But, it would be helpful to know what it is you think some of the specific ones are.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:08 pm to shel311
quote:Your lack of understanding of elections doesn't compel me to play your silly game.
So tell me which election your vote changed if it's false?
quote:Because I'm correct.
I'm not the one initially claiming votes are wasted, you are.
You want to act as if ALL votes are wasted. Which is stupid. Hell, if it were true, then the OP wouldn't make any sense. Ya know. Because NONE of our votes would actually be responsible for who is in DC!
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:09 pm to shel311
quote:
If I feel that the Ds and Rs can't solve those problems, then discussing the problems are not relevant to this discussion.
I don't think you can articulate them.
I don't think you can even articulate ONE
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