re: If you have never read One Second After, you should

Another example of "the little things" that people today think it's ok to do: Protesters take over LA restaurant in anger over vegan menu change

When nobody has respect for anything... "What's yours is mine". (an extension of the Reparations bullshite.) What happens when there's absolutely no pushback. Hate to break it to you but it's as much our fault as it is theirs. Human nature at its finest.

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This apocalypse fetish plays into their view of the rapture. They have been programed to want this sort of outcome.

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Like death, nobody wants it, but if there is real explanation as to the Spiritual reason that helps a Spiritual person to bear it, then such is a blessing. Christians defer to the Prophetic Narrative and find comfort in the fulfillmate therein and the ultimate outcome. Such being eternal Love and Life..."more abundantly" (Jesus's promise).

The idea that we exist in a Spiritual Universe, I.e., that Energy is Self -Aware and essentially 'God' is by all sound reasoning, no reach, as we are existential proof that such can be/is the case. It is certainly no "fetish" or flawed logic-based irrationality re embracing and celebrating the comfort derived via such Belief. As the Science and our Heart/Love back us up.

Belief aside, death is assured for all, and Civilizations have come and gone since the dawn of Humanity. And who knows how far back that goes. And this is just our currently perceived Universe, nws Scientific/Mathematical theory evidence which hints at infinite and parallel universes. To have a Faith/Spiritual Truth-based hope that the beauty of Life and Love is not eternally lost to the otherwise hopelessness and fatal flaws of an imperfect Humanity, is all that makes the difference between a absolutely hopeless and cynical spiritual life, or a hopeful, optimistic and joyous one.

One cannot escape the spiritual consequences of their Belief, as our Feelings are the result of our chosen Belief. Cynicism derived from a belief in an imminent and eternal non-existence, or "the peace that passeth all understanding..." which is the spiritual/feeling fruit of Belief/Faith. this is fact, faith and belief nws.

To each their own. Fair enough.

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Im sure it would be exactly like that

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We have modern knowledge and firearms.

It would be better than that.

Competitive, driven people would thrive. It would suck for you.

Kevin Roberts (from Lafayette, LA) schooling the Global Elitists in Davos - and their view of the future:

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Kevin Roberts (from Lafayette, LA) schooling the Global Elitists in Davos - and their view of the future:

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WEF types, like American progressives are utopians.

More harm has come to the world in search of utopia than survival. Nature promotes excellence, utopians promote dysfunction.

Thats one way to spin it

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When the free money ends, you will die.

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You admitted to getting paid from the state to live there

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The concern would be metro areas. Not a lot of power plants in the middle of Manhattan or Atlanta, and those places will go Lord of the Flies in two weeks or less with the outside world hampered from helping them like what happens after a hurricane.

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The pressure of urban survival in that scenario would mean the few gangs that survived would be so efficient and brutal that they would dominate the suburbs and outer regions.

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"They are great fiction, but not analogous to potential futures", they said in 1935 pre-war Germany.

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You're comparing human behavior to fictional technological scenarios. That's apples to bowling balls.

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You watch too many movies. There is no chance of this, other than near total destruction of life, where electricity is irrelevant.

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I wasn't talking about EMPs. I was talking about Rog's "apocalypse" scenario.

It's not that war/conflict would immediately cause this sort of collapse (like an EMP), but the equipment would only work as long as it had the proper parts and fuel. In an economic collapse scenario, supply chains are completely disrupted, so replacement parts for all sorts of machinery (especially delicate things like microchips) are not options.

Any sort of disruption in the petro chain (From production to downstream) would have devastating effects on society at large. Petro products fuel modern living standards. If refineries can't repair themselves, and we can't restart society without refineries, then it's a domino scenario. This is also ignoring the actual violent conflicts that will be going on.

That and The Camp of the Saints are starting to read like a fortune cookie that's hitting way to close to home...