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re: If you bank at one of the orange banks, gonna be a hell of a week

Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:47 am to
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
1043 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:47 am to
I bank at Wells Fargo…can someone with better understanding, help me to understand why banking at a credit union is better. I appreciate it.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4131 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:48 am to
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quote:Schwab is all sorts of fricked I believe. How so?


From what I’m hearing, Schwab might have a just as large unrealized loss impact on capital ratios as SIVB.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10413 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:04 am to
Recall that all those bros that never studied, drank their way through frat life, and were way cooler than your dumb engineering arse????

Yeah, those dumb mutha-frickers all went in to banking.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:19 am to
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Schwab might have a just as large unrealized loss impact on capital ratios as SIVB.
Are you hearing this informally or are there sources you can cite? The personal ramifications (if Schwab was in trouble) would be very different for posters here as compared to SVB.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4131 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:20 am to
Sorry just passing along information I’ve heard and I’m not citing any source.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Big banks go this week
Credit unions go next week
Hyperinflation a few weeks later

why would hyperinflation occur?

I imagine a collapse of our financial sector would be pretty deflationary
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:50 am to
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Are you hearing this informally or are there sources you can cite? The personal ramifications (if Schwab was in trouble) would be very different for posters here as compared to SVB.

I awoke to 2 short-term CD purchase notifications from my CS app just this morning

I'm well below 250k there, though
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:52 am to
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Sorry just passing along information I’ve heard and I’m not citing any source.
Okay. If that's the case and your comments are just based on something you heard from somebody, it's probably poor form to post "Schwab is all sorts of fricked." If there is any reasonable basis for the post, that's a wholly different story though.

On the upside, as someone with significant exposure in SCHW (& AMTD), I'm certainly taking a second healthy look at MM and cash positions there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:00 am to
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On the upside, as someone with significant exposure in SCHW (& AMTD), I'm certainly taking a second healthy look at MM and cash positions there.

See my comment above about CDs
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4131 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:02 am to
Go back and reread my follow up post as I provided a reasonable basis. Sorry for providing a bit of information for this forum and I will remove myself from this discussion.

BTW, SCHW -11.69% pre-market.

Peace
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 8:09 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:07 am to
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I'm well below 250k there, though

Yeah, just rub it in SFP. Rub it in.

As a related point here, for those folks with joint accounts, FDIC protection extends to both i.e., $500K. There are other ways to extend protections also, via trust accounts, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:11 am to
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Yeah, just rub it in SFP. Rub it in.

First time on this site someone is bragging by saying they're poor
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 8:12 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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139071 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:12 am to
quote:

reread my follow up post as I provided a reasonable basis
Okay. I guess I'm overlooking it. Why not just repost/quote or restate it?
quote:

I will remove myself from this discussion
That's your choice. No one is asking you to exit the thread.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:13 am to
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5563 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I bank at Wells Fargo…can someone with better understanding, help me to understand why banking at a credit union is better. I appreciate it.


There's not a lot of people with better understandings in here. I've read posts from guys saying to find an FDIC-insured credit union . The FDIC insures banks, the NCUA insures credit unions. Both up to $250K. If you have a spouse on the account, it's $500K. Any amount over that, you need to find a different ownership category or deposit that amount at another insured institution.

To directly answer your question, "better" is subjective. Banks who might be in trouble after this fallout are actually more of the small/mid-size regional banks who certainly can't handle a bank run. The "corporate conglomerate" banks like WF, JPM, Citi, BOA would collapse the entire economy if they fell.

There's nothing to worry about for 99.9% of people.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182580 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:33 am to
My bank was recently bought out by First Horizon. I dropped them not long after. Their customer service is horrible. Can't get more than $1000 cash on a Saturday and when I got upset about it they threatened me with trespassing me from the drive-through. F them. I hope they do fail.

Switched it all over to Chase because they are too big to fail.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150408 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:37 am to
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Hancock Whitney has been in a lot of trouble because they have insane overhead costs. They're shutting down physical locations and selling branches as fast as they can.
werent they bought by Regions about 5 years ago?
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:38 am to
Reasons why they are in red, and what to keep an eye on? Ie...if you have money in a few in red what should be done....asking for a friend of course.

On a side note...I bet all 50 of those banks have elaborate DEI/ESG pages on their websites.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182580 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:39 am to
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If a bank fails, what happens to loans they've made? For example, to whom would you pay your mortgage and how?




Packaged up in blocks and sold to another mortgage or debt servicer. Someone like Mr Cooper is probably looking to pick up mortgages on the cheap. Hell, your debt may even wind up owned by a hedge fund like Blackrock.
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1514 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:41 am to
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Hancock Whitney has been in a lot of trouble because they have insane overhead costs. They're shutting down physical locations and selling branches as fast as they can.


and opening new branches. They're building a large new branch in Flowood, MS right now
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