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re: If you actually believe that POTUS45 had nuclear secrets at his private residence…

Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:19 am to
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:19 am to
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I honestly weep for anyone that actually believes this. Anyone with a modicum of common sense would be able to logically work through the probability of this happening and dismiss it outright.



Any of this from either side.

Not sure which group is worse, the ones who think Trump is a clear and present danger or those who believe he somehow waved his cock and declassified single copies of classified documents, both sides have cast all reason aside and dug into their trenches.


Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:27 am to
There’s a third side…..”The Overgeneralizers”
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:29 am to
They are called the audience and they are laughing at you.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:37 am to
Lol what are they laughing at me about exactly? I haven’t actually given you any clues as to which of those “sides” I belong to, or neither. But the “audience” is just laughing at me anyway? This is a bit bizarre.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:39 am to
Yes, this was your first ever post, who could know where you stand.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127392 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:55 am to
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Bottom line is I don’t know, and neither do you.
I can rationally consider the possibilities. And nuclear weapons secrets at his private residence are not very likely. But you keep on believing. One day you will get him.
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:54 am to
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I can rationally consider the possibilities. And nuclear weapons secrets at his private residence are not very likely. But you keep on believing. One day you will get him.


I’m not believing or disbelieving. The narrative on each side will continue to shift as it has done since this story broke. So far I’m seeing much more consistency of information coming from the DOJ/FBI than from MAGA. Does it mean that the FBI found what they claim to have been seeking? No. Does it mean their actions were actually in good faith and not simply politically motivated? No.

What it means is that as more information comes out Trump will either be shown to be in violation of very serious laws or Trump will be vindicated. If the former is the truth I doubt the MAGA folks will ever admit, moving the goal posts or claiming false flags/deep state setups. If the latter is true I doubt the folks on the left will accept it, choosing instead to focus on Trump’s previous deceptions as proof of his current guilt.

Personally, I would prefer we collectively move away from both Trump and Biden, and try to get back to a less oppositional form of governance. That’s unlikely though as people call for civil war, demonize the other side, and engage in constant uniformed speculation while refusing to look at factual information when it comes to light.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33414 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:56 am to
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It’s ok, bud. Trump declassified the documents the FBI planted with his mind. No harm, no foul.

You missed the point . It’s ok.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157830 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:05 am to
How did Trump get all these super secret docs out of the White House without any trouble at all?

That seems oddly easy.
Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
5436 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:34 am to
Yeah the current model of "journalism" is basically National Enquirer with a different name put on it.

Race to be the first to manufacture a story, all others fall in line, repeat the lie without consequence, stir up controversy, die off and repeat.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15186 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:04 pm to
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but the left is fricking insane


welcome back Roger


Yea Roger man where ya been?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127392 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:09 pm to
I simply want to be left alone and go about my life. And there is a faction of individuals who are bent on authoritarianism.

It is that simple.
Posted by HappKat
Member since Jan 2021
48 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:15 pm to
And if they found nuclear secrets he would have been arrested on the spot!
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:22 pm to
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I simply want to be left alone and go about my life. And there is a faction of individuals who are bent on authoritarianism. It is that simple.


I agree with you, but if you consider the other side they feel similarly. They feel like overturning Roe v. Wade is an intrusion, which given the original terms of that ruling, I’m in agreement. They feel that utilizing tax dollars for private religious institutions is an intrusion and a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state. They feel that they’re rights to couple with and enter into legally acknowledged relationships with are being infringed upon. Etc.

Honestly I think we’re all looking for similar things, but we’ve been convinced by an oppositional party system that we’re too dissimilar to acknowledge that. And while we go on opposing, and hating each other in the most extreme examples, our nation is being fleeced by corporate interests and corrupt politicians. I’m willing to acknowledge that that corruption exists in the Democrat party. Pelosi, Manchin, Schumer, the Clintons, the Bidens, etc. need to exit the stage. Trump and those that have riled so many up over false claims about the election being stolen also need to go, because they haven’t been operating that way with magnanimity. They’re corrupt power seekers as well.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
2373 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:36 pm to
Better question: Do you believe this government is above planting documents to incriminate an enemy?
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7647 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:39 pm to
Or a complete Retard
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157830 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:41 pm to
I do not believe our government is above it at all after pee tapes and all the other shite.

That’s a problem.

Zero trust zero loyalty.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98073 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:41 pm to
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They feel like overturning Roe v. Wade is an intrusion, which given the original terms of that ruling, I’m in agreement. They feel that utilizing tax dollars for private religious institutions is an intrusion and a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state. They feel that they’re rights to couple with and enter into legally acknowledged relationships with are being infringed upon. Etc.


Its always about muh feels with you weaklings
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:42 pm to
how about a factual description?
one box of ts/sci.

any ts/sci paper
Directed to taken outside of a sci and then transported to a non-sci location like a resort is a crime.
it doesn't have to be the actual directions to make a bomb.
one of the crimes in the complaint is mishandling.
the ts/sci materials were mishandled. and there's no sign any of it was declassified. by now everyone on TD knows there's a procedure and just talk about declassification is not it.
there's a story about trump and a Twitter declassification.. soon after he said Just a Twitter doesn't really reclassify. there's a process. so he's on record as 100% understanding.
his more recent claim is false propaganda.


This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157830 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:42 pm to
How about you take a hint and STFU and GTFO?
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