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re: If "White America" is the Root of All of Our Problems, Why R Black-Run Cities Total Crap?

Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:54 am to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:54 am to
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Because whites fled these cities and took all their money with them, but left behind crumbling infrastructure and no tax base. Property values are declining thanks to redlining, which itself is a result of racist whites refusing to live next door to blacks. So dig a little into the causes instead of just looking at the symptoms.


So you blame the people, who correctly saw what was coming, and got off their asses and helped themselves?
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4587 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 6:00 am to
San Francisco is less than 10% black, but is 85% democrat. There’s your trend.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 6:23 am to
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Because whites fled these cities and took all their money with them, but left behind crumbling infrastructure and no tax base. Property values are declining thanks to redlining, which itself is a result of racist whites refusing to live next door to blacks. So dig a little into the causes instead of just looking at the symptoms. Educate yourselves, and become part of the solution, instead of just bitching about the problem.


After all the recent rioting, looting, murders, and attacks against whites you're going to blame white people for wanting to move away? How are whites specifically supposed to be part of the "solution"? Solution to what? Whites have paid trillions in public assistance, such as housing and food stamps. Programs have been instituted that give blacks advantages in college admissions and employment. What are whites supposed to do, get robbed and take a beating for "social injustice"? Maybe blacks should stop bitching, work hard to educate themselves, get a job, and gain respect. How about trying that for a change?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10335 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 6:37 am to
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“attacks against whites”

Diversify your news feed. Do some research on lynching. And the Tulsa riots/race massacre of 1921. Or Colfax, Louisiana.

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blacks should stop bitching, work hard to educate themselves, get a job, and gain respect.


And that’s how you know you’re arguing with a racist.

Maybe you should stop seeing issues as “white” and “black” and start seeing it as people.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 6:39 am
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10335 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 6:43 am to
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So you blame the people, who correctly saw what was coming, and got off their asses and helped themselves?


Or created the whole problem. Depends on your perspective, I guess. Why do we have to have “black cities” and “white suburbs?” Why can’t we just have “cities” and “suburbs?” Look into the racist history of redlining and you’ll find your answer. Yes, there is an economic element to it (banks didn’t want to lose money on mortgages), but that lack of demand was built on racial preferences and biases.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
4982 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:28 am to
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The OP knows the answer to this question. Hell the entire Country knows the answer to this question. But we move along with our daily lives as if these cities are just normal every day America and accepted.


Yes, the entire country, including the black community and it’s leaders - clergy, politicians, business leaders - are mute on the two root causes

72% of black men abandon their children
3% of the population - young black men - commit 53% of violent crimes

Whites can’t solve this problem. It is a cultural problem, and as long as black leaders are mute, the signal sent is ‘ it’s no problem’
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:38 am to
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If white people move into a neighborhood, it's gentrification

If white people move out of a neighborhood, it's white flight

If white people embrace a minority culture, it's cultural appropriation

If white people don't embrace a minority culture, it's racism


Maybe one more:

If white people impersonate a culture (e.g. black face), it's a capital offense.

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It's a maze with no exit.


Very nice. I may have to appropriate for future use.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34141 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:40 am to
Projection.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:50 am to
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And that’s how you know you’re arguing with a racist.


And this is how you know you are arguing with an idiot.
Posted by 20 ton
BR
Member since Aug 2013
795 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:16 am to
What is going to help inner cities more today. Opportunity zones or worrying about something that happened in 1921 or earlier.

Most white people I know don’t care about working or living near blacks. We already do. The hard working blacks that have as much equity invested as I do aren’t the problems. It’s the section eight crowd including lazy whites that cause crime and decline.

Redlining is illegal How do you know when it’s race based. Is the credit score and credit history just as good. The Obama recession was based on stopping redlining and helping financially disadvantaged people.

Many were given loans above normal credit practices. The people were helped into default at alarming rates. It was one of many factors in the down turn but who did it hurt the worst. Those they tried to help.

As a white kid that was bussed, I find it incredible that now blacks in some instances want black only dorms and segregation. UCLA and UVA I believe. Look at the segregated areas in chops. It would be funny watching liberals devolve into those things they say they hate if it weren’t so sad for our country.

The system in this country has always been freedom of opportunity. Even hard work and smart planning require luck. Can you imagine saving and doing everything right to open a gym earlier this year. How about having your shop looted when you also feel the need for justice for an incident a thousand miles away. Only the uninformed think insurance covers everything.

West Indies and African immigrants are advancing in many cases above whites because they know what true poverty and lack of opportunity are. The are taking advantage of the system instead of wanting to change it. I don’t accept billionaires like Opra or Robert Johnson lecturing me about opportunity and my racism while I sit in my crane on a Saturday morning.

We can all agree America would be better with a larger black middle class.it would give more young blacks an understanding that there are more ways to escape poverty than Rap or athletics.

Handing over a large chunk of money in reparations isn’t the answer. How you spend money is as important as how much you make. Ask Johnny Depp.
Posted by VanzettiVandal
Member since Jun 2020
79 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:21 am to
IQ
Time Preference
Impulse Control
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:23 am to
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San Francisco is less than 10% black, but is 85% democrat. There’s your trend.


You don't get it. I never said that white liberals were worth a damn at running cities, either.

The point of this thread is, we are being told by some that white people and White America are the cause of all our troubles. If that were really so, then by definition these cities currently being governed by blacks such as New Orleans, Shreveport, Baton Rouge, Baltimore, Birmingham, Detroit, etc. should be thriving because they wouldn't be hamstrung by "toxic" white leadership.

And of course, we all know this isn't the case. In fact, these are some of the worst-run cities anywhere.

CONCLUSION: The people telling us that White America is responsible for all of our problems are full of shite.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:27 am to
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Diversify your news feed. Do some research on lynching. And the Tulsa riots/race massacre of 1921. Or Colfax, Louisiana. 


This right here is part of Barack Obama's sordid "legacy". He has you people going back to 1921, or 1821, or 1619, and acting like that has anything to do with current day America.

I swear, many of you fools fell for everything that anti-American, race-baiting homosexual Kenyan said. Hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13965 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:36 am to
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Because whites fled these cities and took all their money with them, but left behind crumbling infrastructure and no tax base.

So, the 'white flight' racism as opposed to the staying put, having nice properties, 'gentrification' racism. Seems that Crackas are going to catch the blame either way.
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:38 am to
Because it is so much easier to blame whites than to deal with the real problems... cultural problems. Families without fathers, rampant drug use, and the crime that comes with it. Poor education is another problem in part because parents do not push their children to succeed. Black children who do well in school are actually looked down upon by other students. When gangsta rappers and actual gangsters become the role models, things are not going to turn out well.

When a large number of Vietnamese came to this country after the Vietnam War, many didn't speak English. Many at first had low paying jobs. Their children went to same schools as blacks. It a short time, many of their children excelled in school. They went to college and became processionals.

What was the difference? The culture, not the economic situations. Most successful blacks give credit to their family and rightly so. Until you change the mindset and culture of the majority of blacks,nothing is going to change. Adding fuel to the fire are liberal policies that eventually lead to chaos and destruction.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:41 am to
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RockChalkTiger


This clown is the obvious racist here. He/she is given facts yet still chooses to believe that whites are to blame. This proves that the only systemic issue here is thinking like this person....
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89518 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:44 am to
Legacy of racism/white supremacy.

They will be saying that long, long after we're gone.

What will likely happen is a new caste system will develop, similar India's.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89518 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:53 am to
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Diversify your news feed.


You first.

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Do some research on lynching.


How many black folks have been "lynched" since 1960?

1940?

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And the Tulsa riots/race massacre of 1921.


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Or Colfax, Louisiana.


You know these were conflicts between 2 armed militia groups, right, 100 and 150 years ago? In the aftermath, the white groups behaved much like you see Antifa and BLM behave today.

I guess you're in the "two wrongs make a right" camp.



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Maybe you should stop seeing issues as “white” and “black” and start seeing it as people.


Classic projection. Folks see a white cop kneeling on a black criminal's neck and ASSUME that race is the sole or primary motivation for the act. Not only that, but that all white people are somehow responsible.

Not seeing people as "white" or "black" is now racist. You should have got the memo through your MSM, DU, or Reddit sources.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 8:54 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:56 am to
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If "White America" is the Root of All of Our Problems
Money, so they say,
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise it's no surprise that they're
Giving none away, away, away.
Posted by Pitt Road
Floriduh
Member since Aug 2017
773 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:19 pm to
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Property values are declining thanks to redlining, which itself is a result of racist whites refusing to live next door to blacks.


Racist policies? It's just good business practice not to lose ones shirt when making loan. Sometime one wants the loan paid back.

Your ilk is out of material and has been for decades.
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