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re: If Trump wins, takes office without issue, and gets 4 years, is the black pill dead?

Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:22 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:22 am to
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Why is he more likely to accomplish this than Kamala?


Yeah that makes zero sense
Posted by scottydoesntknow
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:22 am to
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Basically a bunch of crybabies turning their emotional reacts up to 11/10 and seeking out any confirmation claims (no matter how insane) to inject as copium.


Right, well a bunch of dudes who play video games and gripe about their issues dont negatively affect anyone.

Im more concerned about the POS lawyers like yourself who do make life worse for everyone.

Why would I pile on dudes who are depressed? I want these guy's lives to get better. They arent harming their neighbors or grifting on the system. The left and people like you get some kind of sick pleasure out of seeing these people suffer and proclaiming your superiority. That to me, is far more sick and deplorable than anything they do.

No, I dont think Trump winning will cure the woes of "black pill" men, but it will certainly give some of them more hope than more of the same BS weve been force fed for almost 20 years now(save a 2 year period). At least Trump wants these people to succeed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:22 am to
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You told me what you wanted people to believe. I'll get the truth out of you at some point.

Conspiracies upon conspiracies.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:23 am to
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Why do you associate Trump with "demoralization and global destabilization"?


Half the country will be demoralized. Like I said they do it to both sides. Their goal is destruction, not getting democrats to win. You gotta think bigger.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:23 am to
A long thread
An SFP thread.




Didn’t read, but wanted to comment on how it would have been a waste of time.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:24 am to
Conspiracy involves multiple people. How many are you?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:25 am to
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You can't count on the DEMs self-imploding



You can count on any anti-meritocracy organization imploding when pitted against a meritocracy focused organization.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:25 am to
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Not directly they can't. IMO they have surrogates to cause chaos. That won't stop Trump from taking office but what it does is cause further division. Control through chaos is a real thing as is MK ultra surrogates.

Not sure if this is a BP position but the chaos is used as a form of distraction for the masses while they work behind the scenes further to erode rights, middle-class wealth, etc. They are playing the long game so something like not allowing Trump to take office would bring it to the forefront too quickly and expose intentions leading to WW3 or at the very least a civil war.


You keep using "they" here, but it seems like you're talking about different groups.

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Also, I have long seen Soros as willing to be the face of it. He is on record as saying the best time in his life was when he was a kid helping the Nazis track down other Jews. IMO he isn't acting alone but rather is willing to take the blame because he enjoys being the bad guy. He is a participant and puppet of a larger NWO.

see this "they" is A LOT different than the "Deep State" (aka, federal bureaucracy).

Or you're just using "Deep State" as a malleable concept like "globalism" or "lawfare" to fit in wherever you want it. I'm not calling you out; this is why I was very explicit in my OP in defining things. To avoid using the vague, malleable concepts.

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FWIW, the largest counter to the NWO still remains Russia.


If this NWO exists, the answer is China.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:26 am to
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Yeah that makes zero sense

Why I told him to go make a thread with this argument. He'll get lit up.
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:27 am to
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I've already said if that happens against all the data we have, then I'll become a lot more receptive to the conspiratorial talk.

Do you REALLY think that's likely, given what we know now?


Curious, are you saying that you think he'll legitimately win the election and take office?

Personally, I think that he'd win in legitimate circumstances, but I worry about the legitimacy of this election and/or that they will try to kill him again. I hope that I'm wrong but I won't believe it's coming to fruition until his hand is on the Bible. I pray to God that I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:28 am to
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I want these guy's lives to get better.

So do I. Creating a reinforcement mechanism of dopamine hits of nihilism isn't going to help them.

These guys need to come back to reality first before they can improve their lives to become happier. At TRP level, this is possible/promoted. TBP is beyond this. The point is giving up and being a fatalist to the impending doom.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:28 am to
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Conspiracy involves multiple people. How many are you?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:30 am to
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Curious, are you saying that you think he'll legiowin the election and take office?

Yes. Without major incident.

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I think that he'd win in legitimate circumstances, but I worry about the legitimacy of this election and/or that they will try to kill him again

Well I created the parameters of this discussion with that in mind.

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If Trump wins, takes office without issue, and gets 4 years


Clearly if he's assassinated, whether part of a conspiracy or not, the CTs will go nuts about it. For the purposes of this discussion, that's not an option.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:30 am to
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You keep using "they" here, but it seems like you're talking about different groups.



"They" is all of it. The deep state, 3 letter agencies, Soros and his group, and all of the politicians they control. They are all one group and I think that is how a lot of people see it.

IMO Epstein was in this "they" as well and his island was used to gain control over powerful people to get them to do their bidding.

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Or you're just using "Deep State" as a malleable concept like "globalism" or "lawfare" to fit in wherever you want it


Not trying to fit any argument but at some point you have to make a choice that everything just happens to be a coincidence or there is a deeper game at play and there are no coincidences.

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this is why I was very explicit in my OP in defining things. To avoid using the vague, malleable concepts.



I think your definition of the BP is very linear compared to mine and others.

Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:32 am to
Isn’t the black pill just that these guys think they will never be able to get laid or find a wife because they are short or have weak chins? I’m not sure what baring a presidential election has on any of that
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:32 am to
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I'll expand.

Society is mind fricked by decades of subtle programming. See Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity

We saw "smart" people go apoplectic over a vaccine. Calling for camps, societal rejection, house arrest, denial of health care, etc only for their belief was rooted in 100% compliance with the programming on TV. frick those people, I hope they get to one day live in their authoritarian world and weep while seeing others enjoy freedom.

Social media has now given people the ability to see what other individuals think of them, at least politically.

As long as both sides truly believe the only way to either "take back" their country, or "Progress forward" is to control DC and the center of power, the battle will carry on with a slim margin.

Either we need a return to absolute Federalism as intended before the Constitution, or, we break up the Union and let people live in the environment they seek.


This is a great post. Im reading Psycho-Cybernetics right now. The mind absolutely can be convinced to believe anything if the message is consistent enough. Long ago, those that desired power realized that you dont obtain power by running for office on policies, you do so by controlling people's minds.

I used to think the left was just knowingly lying to get what they want. Some are...but many more than I ever thought possible believe the stuff they say. Id say this has been the biggest revelation for me recently.

The "black pill" dudes are a threat to the establishment because they see beyond many facades that society has set up to keep us in line, but they havent found a purpose to fill that void.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:33 am to
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you have to make a choice that everything just happens to be a coincidence

I don't think there are as many connected coincidences with real evidence as you think. I think there is some Texas Sharpshooter's Fallacy/hindsight bias going on.

People who want to promote the theory will look at the data after the fact and circle what they want to include it.

They pretend to do this in real time, but it's using vague/malleable concepts so they can pick and choose what counts and what doesn't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:34 am to
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Isn’t the black pill just that these guys think they will never be able to get laid or find a wife because they are short or have weak chins?

That's the incel movement version, which was the OG.

The CTs stole the concept when red pilling got to be too normie (around Q)

Their secret knowledge wasn't secret enough, so they had to create crazier shite and built it around this "black pill" concept.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:34 am to
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Not trying to fit any argument but at some point you have to make a choice that everything just happens to be a coincidence or there is a deeper game at play and there are no coincidences.



I have a third way. Somethings aren’t coincidences and some things are and what you think is a coincidence or not depends largely on what your sources of information are
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 8:34 am to
Ok that makes sense. Thank you
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