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Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:24 pm to Revelator
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Donny shut down my industry.
This explains the personal animosity
Wasnt that big a deal, I made great money at labor. Way more than I made elsewhere. But It was not my favorite kind of work.
But the fraud I saw when working for Labor made me realize our government is full of really pathetic people who purposely set things up to fail.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:27 pm to McNutty0503
Exactly. shite, Trump is GOP royalty now they own the party.
Its his party.
Its his party.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:33 pm to Revelator
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So by your logic, they should want him more. But they don’t.
No. I explained my logic already. My logic is that Trump is establishment-friendly. Biden is a f'n treasure for the establishment. With one the establishment wins bigly. The other it wins ridiculously bigly.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:34 pm to McNutty0503
quote:Define """"establishment""""
He's a former President. He's about to be the Republican nominee for the 3rd consecutive time. I don't know how much more Establishment you can get.
Idk how anyone would disagree with this.
The man sustained three impeachment efforts by establishment DC. He's now the subject of desperate 3rd world style lawfare to hamstring his 2024 election.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:35 pm to moneyg
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I stated it in the post.
It's not unsurprising that the Ronbot that tries to float this lie the most is the one arguing.
You can't even define establishment, moneyg.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:36 pm to David_DJS
Sounds like there should be plenty of precedent for what has happened to Trump the last 8 years since one "kinda establishment" candidate vs one "very establishment" candidate has happened pretty much every single election.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:36 pm to BCreed1
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We find that to not be them winning, but replaced
Did the establishment thrive under Trump, yes or no?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:45 pm to David_DJS
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No. I explained my logic already. My logic is that Trump is establishment-friendly. Biden is a f'n treasure for the establishment. With one the establishment wins bigly. The other it wins ridiculously bigly.
They look big picture. Meaning beyond Trump.
How have they done with not only the Senate and House, but governors, legislatures, courts, etc.
Trump endorsing a candidate immediately improves the dems chances of winning that race.
They love the fact he has taken over the GOP.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:48 pm to BuckyCheese
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How have they done with not only the Senate and House, but governors, legislatures, courts, etc.
Trumps people are still celebrating their Florida primary against no competitors.
MAGA is 100% about Trump and nothing/no one else.
Its a personality cult wrapped in populist trappings. Almost all of them are. Huey Long, FDR, Obama, Trump.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:51 pm to BuckyCheese
How would the big picture look like all out war on a "friendly?" There is nothing oriented to the long-term with the shite going on right now. Absolutely nothing. It is the most shortsighted strategy in the history of politics. They wouldn't need to reveal so much and go so far just to use his perceived lack of popularity as a tool to defeat down ballot Republicans.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:53 pm to BuckyCheese
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They love the fact he has taken over the GOP.
Yet, will continue to blame the GOP for his failures.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:53 pm to Revelator
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This makes no sense. If both are establishment, why go through so much trouble to keep only one off the ballot?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:59 pm to NC_Tigah
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Define """"establishment""""
That's the real question for the OP. Without a clear definition, we're all making assumptions.
Some of the people working to stop Trump are just Democrats. They may be part of some sort of "establishment" but they certainly aren't part of the "establishment" that has developed a close relationship with Trump.
Further any and all Democrats have an obvious reason to stay in power. They won't flip sides because Trump is close with Lindsey Graham. So their efforts to beat Trump don't extend to some sort of group effort.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:03 pm to Revelator
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I’m actually one of those who initially wanted another candidate than Trump. I was supporting DeSantis early on. But, the constant attacks by the media, deep state, rinos, etc. made me want to vote for Trump. And the more they attack him, the greater my support grows.
Trump was never my guy, wanted Ben Carson.
I quickly understood during the debates that Carson wouldn't be able to stand up to the D.C. Establishment......it ended up Trump was the only person running who bothered the D.C. Establishment, the Gaslight Media, academia, Hollywood, etc. and if Trump was forcing the aforementioned institutions to out themselves as Globalists and cultural Marxists he served a valuable purpose.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:04 pm to Bass Tiger
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the constant attacks by the media, deep state, rinos, etc. made me want to vote for Trump
So crazy how that happened.
We might think it was planned if we didn't know better...right?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:09 pm to JoeHackett
The bureaucratic and clandestine deep state is the puppet master behind the shadows. The establishment is the collection of politicians, lobbyists, special interests, and corporate media lackeys it controls. GOPe with the right hand, DEMe with the left.
We're the crowd watching and cheering as the two puppets fight each other as they slowly poison the theater.
We're the crowd watching and cheering as the two puppets fight each other as they slowly poison the theater.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:39 pm to GRTiger
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The establishment is the collection of politicians, lobbyists, special interests, and corporate media lackeys it controls.
I would add all elements of fedgov itself, which is 9 million employees, contractors and grantees strong.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:48 pm to David_DJS
So everything is geared towards making the Walmart MAGA folk think Trump is for them, but he is secretly for the government?
David_DJS...Not directed at you specifically.
David_DJS...Not directed at you specifically.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:52 pm to David_DJS
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I would add all elements of fedgov itself, which is 9 million employees, contractors and grantees strong.
Most of those are in the crowd. The executive branch is largely part of the deep state. Unelected, career operatives that survive adminsitrations and follow the underlying agenda.
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