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re: If Trump is part of the establishment, as some claim here, why…

Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
471 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:00 pm to
Trump is just the opposite, he's pro America and he's the kind that sees through others bull crap. All one has to do is look at the expenditures of Congress to know they are shafting us the average joe and getting rich by doing so. Studies for is Snails becoming Prostitutes (Made that up, but they have worse stuff on the books). Sending money to foreign nations, who then hire their kids or them to lobby after they retire. The Dems in 2018 took 100 million from a Coal Baron who builds coal mines in China, and pledged to close "Clean Coal Mines" in the USA. Its all about graft. The Dems have made taking money from the Gov. an art form, they have so many 401 Non Profit Org. that are straight up frauds, they are political machines whose sole job is to defeat anything or anyone who is against the Liberal mindset. They will lie, chest or steal to get er done.

So, why do all the Deep State hate Trump? They are doing the bidding of their father Satan, this is why Trump drives them so crazy, he EXPOSES their evil. THINK: 8 years ago the average joe had no idea about what the left was doing at the border, because RINOS were in the pocket of the pro Business Leaders across America, and the Dems saw this as a way to make America as Democrat leaning as California. Satan's goal however is a One World Gov. where when his man moves in he can rule all, its hard t consolidate nations very quickly. So, when these Demons who possess these fools in DC and elsewhere, see Trump coming against the OWG agenda, and against 3rd world citizens invading our nation, and against "FREE TRADE" with China and the E.U. etc. which is never free trade its the other side getting rich off us, or NATO where we are a de facto protectorate of the E.U. These Demons go wild, there is nothing else that explains these fools crazed hated of Trump. They are all liars, and those who vote for them are CHUMPS in reality because those 3rd world citizens they are bringing in are keeping the average joe poor, you do nit get a raise because they are bringing in dirt cheap labor t tale your job away or to make you work for less money.

They hate Trump because he FIGHTS for the Average joe.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17825 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:09 pm to
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So everything is geared towards making the Walmart MAGA folk think Trump is for them, but he is secretly for the government?

I don't think there's secrecy involved. I don't think it's sleight of hand or anything like that. Trump says things for consumption by his base, but there's a disconnect between what he says and what he does. Remember "drain the swamp" - we ate that shite up and he loved that attention, but can anybody seriously argue that he drained the swamp, even a single drop, in his first term? Did he even try?

And now we're told that's what will happen in a second term, gonna go scorched earth, be the proverbial bull in the china closet - except for the humongous palace he's going to build the FBI to accommodate a bigger and more intrusive agency.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6469 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:24 pm to
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Whether intentional or not, he has served that purpose for them, and now they'll apply it to everyone who opposes them, not just Trump.


Of course they will. The Trump haters are not very bright, though. Remember when they tried to convince us that we had to vote for Desantis because the media and democrats wouldn't attack him like they do Trump? Their excuse was that the democrats just hated Trump. Weird how that turned into the democrats wanting Trump to run.

They will pathetically throw out any excuse even if it completely contradicts every other excuse given. But don't be fooled, just because they act like progressives doesn't mean they are. They are adamant about that.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17825 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:42 pm to
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The Trump haters are not very bright, though. Remember when they tried to convince us that we had to vote for Desantis because the media and democrats wouldn't attack him like they do Trump?

I don't remember a single Ronbot making this argument. I remember several Ronbots acknowledging that they'd go after DeSantis, just like they did Trump, Romney, McCain, Bush, etc. It's not like the media's liberal bias started with Trump.

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But don't be fooled, just because they act like progressives doesn't mean they are. They are adamant about that.

Well, it would be pretty stupid to argue that conservatives that are critical of Trump for spending like a liberal, not finishing the wall and taking the knee on Covid were progressives. Right?
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 8:45 pm
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9604 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 6:23 am to
Because OMB! That’s why
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57849 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:13 am to
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We might think it was planned if we didn't know better...right?


So it’s all part of another conspiracy right? Seems like they are going through lots of trouble to accomplish it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260008 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:15 am to
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So it’s all part of another conspiracy right? Seems like they are going through lots of trouble to accomplish it


If they wanted him out, he would be out. Evidently there's a bunch who dont want him out, and a vocal minority who does.


Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27376 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:40 am to
He was very much part of the donor class. Beginning in 2012, multiple Republicans would go to him for money. Previously he gave money to Democrats like Hillary (Senate) and Charles Schumer. He reveled in it. Then he decided he understood media better than them and decided to enter the fray and BECOME the Republican side of the establishment.

Don't delude yourself into thinking he was just this business oriented billionaire developer who decided to run out of a swelling of civic responsibility. No one who runs at that level does.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260008 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:42 am to
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Remember when they tried to convince us that we had to vote for Desantis because the media and democrats wouldn't attack him like they do Trump?


No, we tried to get you to vote Ron because he's a leader, Trump isnt.

Its that simple.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73312 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:43 am to
Leaders dont get less votes than Nikki Haley

Sorry bub
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64464 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:45 am to
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But, the constant attacks by the media, deep state, rinos, etc. made me want to vote for Trump. And the more they attack him, the greater my support grows.



So that's more important to you than policy?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260008 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:47 am to
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So that's more important to you than policy?


Bingo.

Policy isnt important. If it were, they would be alarmed at how far left their infatuation with a reality TV star has pushed them leftward.

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