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re: If Trump doesn’t debate, how is that different from Biden hiding in the basement?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:37 am to Giantkiller
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:37 am to Giantkiller
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He doesn't need to debate as it can only hurt him, so he isn't going to debate.
Yeah...we know....Trump is the only thing that matters to some people. The American People do not matter.
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Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:38 am to Jjdoc
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Trump will debate. He may not in this first one, (he has not stated he wouldn't)
Yes, he did. Your comprehension just isn't very good.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:39 am to riccoar
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why would I attend something thats going to hit me with the tough questions
You're making the argument that he's a pussy.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:40 am to Adam Banks
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Disloyal cuck
Why would wanting to hear your guy speak about issues more disloyal?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:40 am to NIH
One is strategy. The other is cowardice.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:41 am to CrimsonChaos
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I have serious questions about how he handled certain issues last time I trusted him with my vote.
Like what?
I mean the guy has been extremely transparent and had the most access to his administration in decades.
If you are an idiot blaming him for the Republican Party undermining (congressional waste of space like Ryan and McCain) his presidency or second guessing how he handled the lab leak of a foreign bioweapon on the world and the weaponizing of it by his political opponents then that is just stupid.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:42 am to Colonel Flagg
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How about the way Republican congressional leadership completely wasted their power and undermined his Presidency?
You mean the one's he supported to their position of leadership?
quote:
The Republican establishment plan to pull the same shite.
You mean like the one's running his campaign?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:43 am to NIH
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You’d rather just crown him?
Is their anything about Trump you don't know now that you would discover in a debate? Besides, no matter what he says, it won't change what you or other TDS infected people think of him.
The sole reason Trump haters want him to debate is because it could hurt his chances. That's it.
Purely malicious intent.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:43 am to pankReb
If you can’t understand how perception works, then i dont know what to tell you. But i’ll give it another try.
His base
Dont give a frick
About the GOP
To his base - not being allowed to debate because you wont blindly support The Party is not the same as him just saying im not doing debates.
This is a pretty simple observation to understand if one has any understanding of the avg Trump voter.
Lobbing insults at such simple observations says more about you than anything else.
His base
Dont give a frick
About the GOP
To his base - not being allowed to debate because you wont blindly support The Party is not the same as him just saying im not doing debates.
This is a pretty simple observation to understand if one has any understanding of the avg Trump voter.
Lobbing insults at such simple observations says more about you than anything else.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:43 am to tigerpawl
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One is strategy. The other is cowardice.
I can honestly say that I'm not sure which one you're referring to as which.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:44 am to Jjdoc
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I never stated that could lose voters. In fact I stated there is nobody on that stage that will pull votes from Trump in any meaningful way.
Rush was spot on in saying that the bond between Trump and his voters is strong enough that Trump, and Trump only, could damage that bond. We’ve clearly seen evidence of some of that happening during the primary. Not to the point of a majority of republicans but a sizable minority when given the choice to pick another.
If Trump goes up there on the stage and cannot successfully defend his positions that can break the bond for some. Alternatives begin to get a close look and from there who knows what happens. Maybe voters flip or stay with him. He’s clearly in the lead right now so being risk averse makes sense. But it also can be viewed as taking a position because you’re weak and don’t want to expose yourself. He can’t get outflanked if he isn’t there.
I want him up there. I think we deserve to see the candidates challenged in order to make the best decision possible. As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:45 am to lake chuck fan
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Is their anything about Trump you don't know now that you would discover in a debate?
Why did he give Fauci a medal on his last day in office?
quote:
The sole reason Trump haters want him to debate is because it could hurt his chances.
and the sole reason why Trump doesn't want to debate is because it might hurt him.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:45 am to NIH
I wonder if Trump's lawyers will even let him debate, or at least strongly encourage him not to.
I know I would not want to be answering questions debate style if I had all these indictments against me.
He has more to lose than the election by saying the wrong thing.
I know I would not want to be answering questions debate style if I had all these indictments against me.
He has more to lose than the election by saying the wrong thing.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:46 am to SDVTiger
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No theres not.
Obviously there is.
There is obvious value in all candidates facing questions and tough debate.
This is the President of the United States, not Celebrity Apprentice.
There is great value to the American People for hearing all candidates debate.
There is no downside to the American people hearing all candidates debate.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:48 am to LSUnation78
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His base
Dont give a frick
About the GOP
Clearly....because if they did, they would also be speaking out about how Trump filled his campaign staff with the swampiest group of GOP'ers there is.
quote:
To his base - not being allowed to debate because you wont blindly support The Party is not the same as him just saying im not doing debates.
Then run as an independent if you don't want to follow the rules of the party. Trump wants his cake and to eat it too.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:48 am to LSUnation78
quote:
His base
Dont give a frick
About the GOP
His base
Isn't enough on its own
To win the presidency
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:49 am to lake chuck fan
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Is their anything about Trump you don't know now that you would discover in a debate?
Why did you approve so much spending in your term?
Why did you let Fauci cuck you in 2020?
How will you avoid the failure that was your first term?
How will you get the wall built this time?
How will Mexico pay for it?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:49 am to Green Chili Tiger
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His base
Isn't enough on its own
To win the presidency
ding ding ding.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:50 am to pankReb
Look man it’s cool we can sit back and go with the establishment and see it is go the same way as 2008 and 2012. I am kind of over it. The only thing that has given any life to something outside of the bad path of the Dems and political establishment is the Trump movement.
The majority of the dumbasses in the Republican Party leadership still haven’t taken ahold of it. My feeling is we need Trump to help usher a younger leader like Rand Paul or maybe Desantis. I am still weary Desantis would be who some are trying to say he will be and I don’t think he is anywhere close to a national brand yet to even compete in a Presidential general election.
The majority of the dumbasses in the Republican Party leadership still haven’t taken ahold of it. My feeling is we need Trump to help usher a younger leader like Rand Paul or maybe Desantis. I am still weary Desantis would be who some are trying to say he will be and I don’t think he is anywhere close to a national brand yet to even compete in a Presidential general election.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:51 am to Colonel Flagg
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Like what?
Spending - He spent more in 4 year than any President in history, and before Covid was on par with Obama.
Legislative Strategy - He had no interest whatsoever in aggressively pushing legislation. His own advisor that was in charge of pushing Congressional Legislation admitted, while still working for Trump, that it was not a priority to them
Covid - He did not do well, allowed the country to be run by Anthony Fauci, and pushed a vaccine through without testing that turned out to be very harmful
2nd Amendment - pushed for a ban on bumpstocks, and said out loud "take the guns first and worry about due process later"
War - has said he would drastically increase aid to Ukraine if Russia does not agree to an immediate end to the war
That is just for starters off the top of my head.
There is value and IN ALL candidates facing some tough scrutiny.
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